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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have a question about the Slip Case versus Slip Cover. Does a slip cover always open at the top and bottom and slips over a keep case? What about to the side? There are two profiles I've come across for examples:
Dogma and Constantine (both 2-disc editions)
What's everyone's thoughts on this? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Slip Cover can be be either a single opening on the side or two openings, top and bottom.
Slip Cover can be used for parent profiles while leaving the "Case Type" blank, where that is appropriate.
For instance, Stargate SG-1 Season 10 comes in a three sided cardboard case with three ThinPaks inside.
The child profiles would use ThinPak; the parent would use no case type, but a check in the "Slip Cover" box.
At least that is my understanding of its usage based on the lengthy "Case Type" thread here on this forum in which Ken participated. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ok. I just got confused between the two... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Slip Case is kinda obsolete if you ask me. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,436 |
| | Posted: | | | | I just don't really believe Ken would - make the decision to change Box Set to slip case - make a ruling about the case type for box sets - make the newly renamed Skip Case case type redundant all in just about 2 weeks time...  | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Perhaps I'm a little confused about it as well.
I thought the definitions were the following.
Slip Case: What was previously considered a Box Set. A heavier gage paper (or other material) that houses individual DVD cases or in the case of Alien Quadrilogy the entire Digipack.
Slip Cover: A thinner gage cover that slides over an individual DVD case, usually used for movies. Such as used on The Running Man or King Kong: Deluxe Edition. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ya_shin: Quote:
I just don't really believe Ken would
- make the decision to change Box Set to slip case
- make a ruling about the case type for box sets
- make the newly renamed Skip Case case type redundant
all in just about 2 weeks time...
@ Achim: A Skip Case? Now there's a Freudian one! Never thought Skip would end up having his own case type...  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
I thought the definitions were the following.
Slip Case: What was previously considered a Box Set. A heavier gage paper (or other material) that houses individual DVD cases or in the case of Alien Quadrilogy the entire Digipack.
Slip Cover: A thinner gage cover that slides over an individual DVD case, usually used for movies. Such as used on The Running Man or King Kong: Deluxe Edition. That's my understanding... FWIW Slip case is very useful IMO for showing when an original release has an outer slip case so people don't try to change the scans to the normal cover for later production runs which don't include it. I hope it will also help to stop any argument (yeah right!) between the TV series 'each disc child profilers' and the 'one profile per series only' groups from fighting on a digi-pak release (since practically all digipaks need a slip to keep them closed) when the former used to want to say "parent is a box/slip and children are digipaks" and the latter "set (parent) is a digipak" ... now the main profile (parent to those who like to add child discs) can be "digipak in a slip cover" so both groups can be happy the profile includes both bits of info. | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong | | | | Last edited: by Voltaire53 |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 55 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
Perhaps I'm a little confused about it as well.
I thought the definitions were the following.
Slip Case: What was previously considered a Box Set. A heavier gage paper (or other material) that houses individual DVD cases or in the case of Alien Quadrilogy the entire Digipack.
Slip Cover: A thinner gage cover that slides over an individual DVD case, usually used for movies. Such as used on The Running Man or King Kong: Deluxe Edition. That's what I thought as well, it makes sense as you put things in a case and cover something with a cover. It's worth checking your profiles as well as a lot of collections were incorrectly labeled as Box Sets in 3.0 and are now Slip Cases in 3.1 even though the actual case is a keep case or digipak. |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 |  Posts: 426 |
| | Posted: | | | | In context of the recent clarification regarding single content Slipcases (i.e. they get the inner casetype), I would guess that all these single content boxes that have either a slipcase or slipcover around them would need to get the checkbox. This would indicate that there is at least something around the single packaging (whether it is a digipak-book or a single-movie keepcase doesn't really matter).
So in summary:
1. single package without surrounding cardboard case or sleeve => casetype = single package casetype, slipcover = no
2. single package with surrounding cardboard case or sleeve => casetype = single package casetype, slipcover = yes
3. multiple packages without surrounding cardboard case or sleeve => doesn't exist
4. multiple packages with surrounding cardboard case or sleeve => casetype = Slipcase, slipcover = auto-yes (Slipcase is a cover by definition).
PS: where was this new checkbox announced ?! I only found out accidently after I got to vote on a profile that has the new checkbox (according to the notes). I would guess that the 'Announcements' forum is the place for this, but there is nothing there. | | | | Last edited: by hevanw |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
I have a question about the Slip Case versus Slip Cover. Does a slip cover always open at the top and bottom and slips over a keep case? What about to the side? There are two profiles I've come across for examples:
Dogma and Constantine (both 2-disc editions)
What's everyone's thoughts on this? My 'Constantine' is just a keep case so I have to guess, but if the outer cover is open at top and bottom, then that is a 'slip cover'. A slip case has only the one opening on the side. Also, Hal's example is wrong. Season 10 of Stargate would have the master profile showing a "slip case" because it is the outer box that holds the thinpaks. Each child would indicate case type with "thinpak". There is no slip cover involved in that unit. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
Perhaps I'm a little confused about it as well.
I thought the definitions were the following.
Slip Case: What was previously considered a Box Set. A heavier gage paper (or other material) that houses individual DVD cases or in the case of Alien Quadrilogy the entire Digipack.
Slip Cover: A thinner gage cover that slides over an individual DVD case, usually used for movies. Such as used on The Running Man or King Kong: Deluxe Edition. You are correct. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Is there a reason why Slip Cover is shown twice in profiles in the online collection listing if ticked?
i.e. Case Type: Keep Case, Slip Cover, Slip Cover | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Repter: Quote:
3. multiple packages without surrounding cardboard case or sleeve => doesn't exist
I beg to differ. I own the "Immenhof" DVD Collection [4-022484-600282], a collection of 5 DVDs, held together only by a banderole (don't tell me, it's tjhe most $§%&'d up type of packagin ever), but said banderole carries a unique UPC for the box set. Go figure, you should never (aehm...) proclaim something with absolute certainty  | | | | Lutz |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 426 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Darxon: Quote:
I beg to differ. I own the "Immenhof" DVD Collection [4-022484-600282], a collection of 5 DVDs, held together only by a banderole (don't tell me, it's tjhe most $§%&'d up type of packagin ever), but said banderole carries a unique UPC for the box set.
Damn, I hate those cheap ass movie houses. Only a matter of time until they release a collection in envelopes with a paper clip  . |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ya_shin: Quote:
I just don't really believe Ken would
- make the decision to change Box Set to slip case
- make a ruling about the case type for box sets
- make the newly renamed Skip Case case type redundant
all in just about 2 weeks time...
The idea of the "slip cover" check box was a 12th hour change to the beta. Intended or not, it does make the "Slip Case" case type obsolete. If you go back and read the discussion about this, Ken specifically asked about what case type would be used for "boxset" parent profiles if the "slip cover" checkbox was implemented. The answer I gave was, if case type were made optional, to use no case type for them, and just tick the "slip cover" checkbox. Check here.Admittedly, he did not actually post his agreement with this solution, however, the beta was released with this exact capability. Coincidence? Perhaps. It would be helpful if Ken would render an opinion on this. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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