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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRico
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Yesterday on my daily 3 mile walk, which is mostly through tract homes, I noticed many political signs in home owners front lawns. Many signs were for Obama, somewhat fewer for McCain & two FOR prop. 8. Prop. 8 is highly controversial amendment in California, & I'm somewhat curious to see how forum members feel on this issue:

Vote 'FOR' Prop. 8 - Says marriage is between a man & women 'Gays' cannot marry in California.

Vote 'No'  Prop. 8 - Gays can marry in California.

I'm casting my vote on Prop. 8 "NO" for many reasons.


This might make a better poll, not sure how to do so.



Rick

Edit - Non Californians & people from other countries feel free to chime in with your comments.
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Well, I'll vote for gay marriages.
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Yes.
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Quoting Rico:
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This might make a better poll, not sure how to do so.


There's a check box when you make a post for "Make this post a poll".  Check that and then fill in the new boxes that appear as described on the screen and you're good to go. 
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Resounding YES
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No, of course Gays should be able to marry too.
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Rather undecided with a tendency to "NO" to prop.8.
Marriage in church will be quite unlikely though, no matter which side will win.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Quoting Rico:
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Yesterday on my daily 3 mile walk, which is mostly through tract homes, I noticed many political signs in home owners front lawns. Many signs were for Obama, somewhat fewer for McCain & two FOR prop. 8. Prop. 8 is highly controversial amendment in California, & I'm somewhat curious to see how forum members feel on this issue:

Vote 'FOR' Prop. 8 - Says marriage is between a man & women 'Gays' cannot marry in California.

Vote 'No'  Prop. 8 - Gays can marry in California.

I'm casting my vote on Prop. 8 "NO" for many reasons.

This might make a better poll, not sure how to do so.



Rick

Edit - Non Californians & people from other countries feel free to chime in with your comments.


I would vote Yes were I living in California. if the gays want to be MARRIED let them go to Belgium.

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Quoting skipnet50:
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I would vote NO were I living in California. if the gays want to be MARRIED let them go to Belgium.

Skip


FYI

Prop 8:

Voting NO means you are for Gay Marriage in California.
Voting YES changes the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California.
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I live in California and will be voting No.

Prohibiting marriage for same sex couples is tyranny of the majority IMO.

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Marriage in church will be quite unlikely though, no matter which side will win.

I attend an Episcopal church. My priest married her partner in a civil ceremony in the courtyard of the church several months ago and then had a religious blessing inside the church on another date. They've been together for 30 years and both ceremonies were wonderful. I will not be voting to invalidate their marriage; that's for sure.
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if the gays want to be MARRIED let them go to Belgium.


... or any other country where one is not discriminated based on his/her sexual preference.
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I have yet to see a single sensible argument against same-sex marriage (at least a common law mariage - what the individual religions think of it isn't my concern - and obviously it is not the concern of the state either).

I am a bit on the fence when it comes to allowing them to adobt - there I do recognize that there is a third party interest (the child) that needs to be considered. And I doubt any country has yet reached the development level where the child would not experience any problems from this (other children teasing etc). I guess this would be a bit comparible to the problems kids of mixed marriages had many (hopefully) years ago.
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The question is, when will California (or Massachusetts) eliminate the ban on bigamy? Or parents marrying their own children?  Or brothers and sisters marrying? Or polygamy?

There are reasons why these things have been overwhelmingly frowned upon (and illegal) for thousands of years, but somehow, we are now "more enlightened"?

This is simply the result of the ever expanding liberal agenda and removal of God from our lives through the media, especially movies and television to brainwash our society into thinking that it is wrong to be judgmental of other people no matter what they do.  It's callled relativism, and is the path we are far down already.

Just as with children, societies have to have boundaries.  Sadly those boundaries are disappearing.  Our civilization will not be not far behind!
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Anyone who would vote YES care to share reasoning why?

I've been married to the same woman for 29 years & am no way threatened by gays choosing to marry.

Rick
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Quoting sugarjoe:
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if the gays want to be MARRIED let them go to Belgium.


... or any other country where one is not discriminated based on his/her sexual preference.


That's a bunch of hype.

There's a big difference between discrimination and state sponsored same-sex marriage.  Discrimination laws are fully enforceable TODAY, at least in this country, in real cases of sexual preference discrimination.
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The proponents of Prop 8 claim they want to 'protect marriage'.  Seeing as 50% percent of first marriages, 67% of second and 74% of third marriages end in divorce, what exactly are they protecting?

Marriage, despite what some people believe, is a legal contract between two people.  Equal protection under the law, means EQUAL protection for everyone...not just those whose lifestyle you approve of.
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