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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | TV Season rules say Quote: Complete Series/Season - Use the year that the Series/Season was produced and first aired in its country of origin. TV series are typically spread over a date range for a season, for example 2002-2003, for DVD Profiler purposes this will be entered as the beginning of the season; from the example the entry would be 2002.
Anthologies of Episodes – The Production Year will be the date of the Earliest Episode Quote: Individual profiles for each disc may be submitted if desired, but this is not required. Add these profiles to the box set contents of the parent profile. Create each of these individual profiles in line with the standard Contribution Rules with one exception - Cover Images. If a disc, or set of discs, have their own case, use the cover images from that case. When submitting a change to an existing TV series profile that is currently a box set, do not remove the existing contents. So when I have the sixth disc of a season. What's the production year of said disc? | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | For the set... first on the set. For disc levels first on the disc. This is how I have always done it. I know the standard rules says to do it by theatrical release. Since a TV Series is not released Theatrically what would the equivalent be? The original airdate is the only answer I can come up with. This gives us much more accurate info... after all... the only other option would be leaving it blank since the year for the set would not always be the same for the episodes on a single disc. And it is just not possible to have profiles with that field blank. | | | Pete | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,796 |
| Posted: | | | | What Addicted2DVD says is the way most of us do it. Earliest airdate of the episodes per set of discs or of the individual discs. For the series, the parent profile would take the date of earliest episode in the set, I hope. If profiling each disc in a series, each profile would take the earliest date of episodes on that disc.
Note that some media distributors of older TV series or best of series like Koch, Timeless Media Group, Classic Media, etc. may not order the episodes on the disc in the order that they were aired. Some research may be necessary to find actual air dates.
Also some UK TV series may not follow in order of air dates and not necessarily released on a seasonal basis like USA TV series, but are released in what they call sets or volumes, etc. But the same rules apply. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own. Ineptocracy, You got to love it. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln | | | Last edited: by Srehtims |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | It's not really leaning towards one side or another. Then I have to wait what the screeners are going to decide | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | Huh, that was a bit of an anti-climax. All of my contributions had a lot of yes votes and all of them had two no votes. Some of them were accepted, some of them weren't. No decline statement given. For example: What should I make of that? | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | Sounds like a different Screener checked different contributions. Assuming they were all done the same way then all should be accepted or all should be declined. May have to wait for Ken/Gerri to review them. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Karsten:
here's the problem I see and if I did vote on it I should have caught it at the time. The disc set provides NO AIRDATE information, you say that the shows were aired in 2007, and they probably were, but since there is no airdate info in the set, unless I didn't copy the Overview infor right (unlikely, but anything is possible), you provide nothing to back up your claim. If i were a screener I too would have rejected it on that basis. This thread does nothing for verification that the first episode of Disc 5 or 6 was in 2007.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,774 |
| Posted: | | | | In most cases the production year is shown in the end-credits of each episode, "airdate" is not "production year" and "airdate" is only in very rare cases available in the booklet or on the backcover. Most times airdates are only listed in third-party databases.
But checking the production year in the end-credits and stating that in the contribution notes should be enough to verify the information. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | But per Rules we use the Airdate for TV series just like per Rules we use the Theatrical Release date for movies. | | | Pete | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Exactly. The production year is irrelevant, even though that's what the DVDP field is called. I wish Invelos would finally change the field name! |
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Registered: May 9, 2008 | Posts: 467 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote: Exactly. The production year is irrelevant, even though that's what the DVDP field is called. I wish Invelos would finally change the field name! I agree with this. The current label for the field vs the usage for the field do not match. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,774 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote: Exactly. The production year is irrelevant, even though that's what the DVDP field is called. I wish Invelos would finally change the field name! Then we depend in more than 90% of all cases on informations from third-party databases... Don't know if this is in Ken's interest... Or, easier solution, just take the year from the boxset profile for all child profiles. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I would be against that for accuracy sake. But my findings is the total opposite of yours. It seems that the Original air date is on most of the sets I have... whether it is on the case or in the booklet that came with the set. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Not to mention this is far from the only field that we depend on outside sources. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,774 |
| Posted: | | | | Hmm, have to check my tv-series boxes again, but I could remember only few of them having airdates given in the booklet or on the back. As long as the information is somewhere on the disc or the package I have nothing against having these informations, but Ken still should clarify the field / the use of the field. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I believe it is very clear in the rules... he has it saying the Theatrical Release Date (So we have to use an outside source for it) for movies and the original Air Date in the Television rules (So we sometimes have to use an outside source).
He just opted to use a different field name. Sure I wish he didn't... but he made it perfectly clear in the rules how to use the field. | | | Pete |
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