Ok here is a minor issue that just occured to me:

All DVDs/BDs/HD DVDs purchased in Canada have a Canada-wide rating, however Quebec uses their own rating system that necessitates any disc bought there to have an external rating sticker outside the packaging. You are expected to keep this sticker if you ever want to re-sell the disc within Quebec. Annoying, but whatever.

My question relates to what rating should be used when contributing a disc. Although I live in Quebec up unitl now I have been using the Canada-wide rating when contributing a Canada locality profile and the Quebec-only rating when contributing a French title to Canada(Quebec). It just occured to me this morning that there are a lot of Francophones living outside of Quebec who, when they purchase a title with a bilingual cover (most of which are released Canada-wide) may wish to contribute a French profile instead of an English one. No problem right? Just use the Canada(Quebec) locality for French like we have all been told. Except being outside Quebec they do not have access to the (hated and hateful) Quebec rating sticker and so cannot contribute the rating as the Quebec ones are different than the Canada ones. Even for people who live in Quebec will not receive a sticker if they order from an online retailer such as amazon.ca, chapters.ca, futureshop.ca, hmv.com, inetvideo.com or bestbuy.ca.

What are we supposed to do in regards to the rating in these cases? Any thoughts?

Maybe its not a big deal to Non-Canadians, but I found that I was quite irrated to realize that a significant chunk of French-speaking Canadians (about 15%) do not have access to accurate profiles in their primary language and cannot even create them when it comes to the rating. The program will not let you use a Canada rating in a Canada(Quebec) profile. And don't just say keep it local, that is not helpful to the community at large.

For the record, way back in the days of Intervocative when a second locality for Canada was only just talked about I argued against calling them Canada and Canada(Quebec) because of the fact that not all French-speaking Canadians live in Quebec, and not all people living in Quebec are French. My preference would have been Canada (English) and Canada (Français), but I was ignored. Not that I am bitter or anything.   

There would be no harm, but they are dfferent.


Canada      Quebec
G                  G
PG                13+
14A              16+
18A              18+
R

The Canadian R rating is not really in use any more in theatres, but you can still find it on the odd DVD.

Ratings tend to be more lenient in Quebec as well... PG usually ends up as G here, and 18A is almost always 16+ (if not 13+). Its has to be be pretty much hard core sex to get an 18+. For example Watchmen which is R rated in the US and 18A in the rest of Canada is 13+ here.

Well the problem is that if you want a French profile then you have to use the Canada (Quebec) locality, but if you do you cannot use the Canada-wide rating as the program won`t allow it.

Quoting RossRoy:

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Actually the Canada-wide rating is not necessarily the actual rating of the movie in whatever province you happen to be. The Canada-wide rating that is printed on the DVD case is an average among all individual province's ratings.

That is true, but I didn't want to get into it, and is not really relevant to the issue at hand. My preference would be to scrap the Quebec sticker rating and just use what is actually printed on the DVD case. Meaning both regions would use the same ratings and ratings format. Even DVDs released exclusively in Quebec have the Canada-wide rating printed on the packaging. Ideally I would also like to see the regions renamed to Canada (English) and Canada (Français). But that is for another day and does not addess how to deal with French profiles for Discs purchased outside of Quebec.

I've resold a number of discs over the years, but I buy so many outside of the province and country that the majority of my titles never came with the Quebec sticker. I do keep the dratted thing however, usually sticking it somewhere inside the case where I never have to look at it. I certainly never attach it to the disc itself as it was designed to be.

In any case I have found over the last year that with the advent of HD formats it is harder to sell any discs anymore...too many people discarding their double-dips. Mostly I just give them away to friends and family now.

Back to the matter at hand, maybe this needs to move to the feature-request forum...if we can get enough Quebec-based Canadians on board to agree to replacing the Quebec rating with the Canada-wide one in profiler for French profiles. Then we would not be excluding the 1.5 million or so French-Canadians who live outside of Quebec.

or maybe nobody else gives a crap....   

Wouldn't it be better if the Canada and Canada (Quebec) localities had access to both sets of ratings? That way wherever the DVD came from, you could still add the actual rating.
Either that or a different way of recording the dual-language profiles separate from locality.

Quoting AESP_pres:

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The French Canadian living in the ROC aren't exclude they just had to use the Canada(Quebec) locality like we do.

The problem with that of course is that they do not have access to the correct Quebec rating, nor do people living in Quebec who order online. What further complicates matters is that the DVD rating is not always the same as the Theatrical one...especially when it comes to uncut, director's cut, or unrated (which in Canada are never actually unrated LOL) editions. But I understand where you are coming from.

Quoting bob9000:

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The problem with that of course is that they do not have access to the correct Quebec rating, nor do people living in Quebec who order online.

The province rating board doesn't rate what is sale outside of its province and most of the websellers aren't locate in The Province of Quebec (in those case the Canada rating is the only one and the dvd locality is Canada). Really don't see what his the problem for those poor French Canadian living in the ROC...