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Registered: June 11, 2007 | Posts: 68 |
| Posted: | | | | Disney has started to include a copy of the Pixar Shorts DVD with all the other Pixar DVDs, but instead of using a regular slip case, they've wrapped a piece of cardboard around the two movies. The titles are also packed side by side, instead of being stacked. Im wondering if these releases should be submitted as a box set or not. Here's a picture: Each of these pairs has its own UPC, so even if there's no actual box here, this is two movies in one package with a unique UPC. According to the rules, a box set is "any release that includes more than one film", and one of the examples is "Sets where each film is packaged individually, and held together in a package of some kind.". This is definately "a release", it definately includes "more than one film", and it's also definately "a package of some kind", so it seems to me that this should count as a box set. It still feels a bit odd, though, to accept it as a box set when the package that holds the films together is the plastic wrapping. If it is a box set - what should the cover be? Should one scan the package with the plastic wrapping intact, or should one remove the wrappings and organize the two covers on the scanner together with the cardboard wrapping? I didn't take a picture of the back, but the back of the cardboard wrapping is full height, and it's basically an ad for the movie "Up". |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | I would not enter these as Box Sets. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with Martian | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 951 |
| Posted: | | | | What defines a box set is not what holds them together.
The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film.
Technically if you wanted to enter them as a box set you could using the new UPC as the Parent. Picture should look like how they are sold with out the outer plastic.
With that being said I wouldn't enter these as box sets. | | | Are you local? This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,321 |
| Posted: | | | | I've purchased similar items in the past. The way I've approached it is to see if the "set" has a unique UPC. Sometimes I've found things like this that are just a couple movies shrink wrapped together with a price tag. The second factor I use is if the "container" holding them together is permanent or just for looks. In this case, it looks like a cheap piece of cardboard. Not something you'd put the movies back into after viewing like a normal "box" or slipcover.
So these wouldn't go into my collection as a "box set". They just bundling a few movies together. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here. Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. |
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Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,934 |
| Posted: | | | | This is not easy.
I remember when Kung Fu Panda was released. It had another feature boxed with it the same way. The Plastic had a UPC on it, as did the Kung fu panda, but not the added feature. This posed a problem by itself.
I think the question that I would have;
Do each of the keep cases have there own UPC. If they do, then I personally would break it apart, and not worry about the box set itself. Enter each as there own profile.
If this is not the case, you may consider profile with Bonus feature film? or, I think the rules would allow for a box set.
I do know that there is a "Pixar Short Films Volume 1" available as UPC 786936723489 | | | Last edited: by CharlieM |
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Registered: May 9, 2007 | Posts: 1,536 |
| Posted: | | | | A 'release' is an act, so there should be an actor. If the release of such joined movies is by a studio or distributor, I would be more inclined to see this as a box set, than if it were done by a retail chain. | | | Hans |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,678 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote: What defines a box set is not what holds them together.
The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film.
Technically if you wanted to enter them as a box set you could using the new UPC as the Parent. Picture should look like how they are sold with out the outer plastic.
With that being said I wouldn't enter these as box sets. I agree with Tracer that going strictly by the rules this could be entered as a box set. For me, though, it's not a box set unless it is packaged in a way that you might want to keep as a set. Just bundling two titles together with no semblance of an actual box does not make it a box set in my collection. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
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Registered: May 25, 2007 | Posts: 21 |
| Posted: | | | | It is a box set, and its not the first Disney DVD that is like that. The Region 1 version of 'Aladdin II & III Collection' (UPC 786936258806) is packaged like that and is included in the database as a boxset. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Sure, it is "some kind" of box set. Should it be submitted as a box set? That's entirely up to you. Personally, I wouldn't. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: May 9, 2007 | Posts: 1,536 |
| Posted: | | | | When you buy this "box set" and open the package, it looks as if you can't put the "set" together again, at least not without using tape. Not much of a box set in my opinion, or a "temporary box set" at best. If I can't have it as a box set in my collection, then I wouldn't call it one, even if it was a box set in the shop.
(PS. I am going by the pictures here, I have never seen one of these in real life). | | | Hans |
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Registered: July 28, 2008 | Posts: 42 |
| Posted: | | | | looks to be the same Pixar short in all the options.
If you were too purchase Nemo and Wal-E then you would wind up with 2 copies of the Pixar short in your collection instead of giving one too a neighbor kid or something.
I say no box set, but then again rules are rules - lol |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Per rules a box set, according to this "•Sets where each film is packaged individually, and held together in a package of some kind"
... but in my personal opinion i wouldn't enter it as box set. I think most people will enter the two included DVDs seperate, so that even it will be as box set in the database most users never see it as such one. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | Since box sets are by definition very scarcely profiled anyway and now we don't even have a real box cover scan, I'd ask myself: What's the point? | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: April 2, 2007 | Posts: 156 |
| Posted: | | | | At least you have to pay for these as an ordinary box set, ie. together... As a box set they will have a SRP, too. The cardboard is afaik included in each packaging. (Picture)They are sold in multiple stores. ( a.o. Lefdal + Smart Club + more.) I have seen other box sets, where the "box" only is a sort of paper wrapping, - still box set. IMO this qualifies as box sets. | | | Karsten |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting karstenp: Quote: At least you have to pay for these Paying for DVDs? I've never heard of this concept before. Why would someone do that? Just kidding of course. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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