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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
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I know that this has probably been asked, even possibly by me.  So if this is true, I apologize.

Close Encounters of the Third Kind 
    30th Anniversary Ultimate Edition

UPC 043396212688

It has three different versions of the film;
  Theatrical Release
  Special Edition
  Directors Cut

It is three separate discs, and are listed separately on the rear cover, not as features in the features dialog.

Would this be considered a box set?
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I wouldn't consider it one, Charlie. For one simple reason, the only difference between the 3 versions as I recall is the runtime. I don't recall any other significant differences and the Special features apply across the board. How many Profiles of the same data do we really need? It's not like Ben-Hur, which had a different version (1925 Silent) of the film with the SAME name. Nor is it BD combo where we need to capture the DVD data separately from the BD. This simply capturing the same data repeatedly for, to me anyway, of little significant value.

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Quoting Dr Pavlov:
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I wouldn't consider it one, Charlie. For one simple reason, the only difference between the 3 versions as I recall is the runtime. I don't recall any other significant differences and the Special features apply across the board. How many Profiles of the same data do we really need? It's not like Ben-Hur, which had a different version (1925 Silent) of the film with the SAME name. Nor is it BD combo where we need to capture the DVD data separately from the BD. This simply capturing the same data repeatedly for, to me anyway, of little significant value.

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I agree. This release should not be handled as a box-set.

As the rules state - take the running time of the longest version and be done with it - all the rest is the same...
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Quoting Berak:
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As the rules state - take the running time of the longest version and be done with it - all the rest is the same...


Complete rule says if there are "... multiple versions on one disc"

Imho it can also be entered as box set. Have seen this also in database at Terminator 2 and if i remember right at some other movies. So it is something that's accepted.

If different versions of one film make a different film is anothger question. (That's what is according to the rules needed for a box set -> "more than one film")

I think I wouldn't make a box set in such cases, too.
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Sees your Brazil and raises you a Blade Runner and Dawn of the Dead. 
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My BD copy (Norwegian) also has the three versions, but they're only on one disc using seemless branching (I guess) and we have an option in the menu to choose what version to see. So My copy has just one profile, based on the longest RT version. How it's done with three separate discs I don't know, but I woldnt go for a boxset where the only difference is the RT..
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Sees your Brazil and raises you a Blade Runner and Dawn of the Dead. 



But Dawn of the Dead at least has some significant differences between some of the versions. Romero Cut, Argento Cut, different music! That seems to me more of a box set as those are almost, and I say almost, different movies.
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That was the point. 
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The Argento cut of Dawn of the Dead has a different composer and editor. We really need a better way (on the program level) to deal with these.
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For all of those multiple cut releases on multiple discs, I would profile the main cut as the parent profile and add the other cuts as bonus films into child profiles.
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You have that ability...locally.

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Quoting VirusPil:
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Complete rule says if there are "... multiple versions on one disc"


Absoluitely; I've been 'caught out' in the past by this one and, as the Rules specify, if the versions are on one disc you take the longer, if the longer version is one of the 'bonus' discs then you use the runtime of the 'main' version as per the cover.

Personally I think the Rule should be changed to always use the longer version because, AIUI, it was written before it became a 'common practice' to include different versions on different discs and everyone thought they'd always use seamless branching... but as it stands the Rule is (sadly) clear, if (IMO) illogical.
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The Argento cut of Dawn of the Dead has a different composer and editor. We really need a better way (on the program level) to deal with these.


Well, it works actually pretty nice with this set, All the different cuts are on separate DVDs.
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I just ask myself:
What harm would be done if it actually was entered as a boxset?
Those not interested in the additional data may just download the parent profile, the others have the children.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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I just ask myself:
What harm would be done if it actually was entered as a boxset?
Those not interested in the additional data may just download the parent profile, the others have the children.

Except, if it is profiled as a box set, the parent profile would be empty...per the rules.  If some people want child profiles, the only way to keep everybody happy, is to use the bonus feature film format.
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