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| Registered: December 3, 2008 |  Posts: 186 |
| | Posted: | | | | Question: Is taking the data from the film itself valid? Unless I have skipped it from the rules... advise would be appreciated. (I have noticed that literally hundreds of contribution contributed before the DVD are even out are approved... I took data from the film and I get people saying 'no' .... )
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Lost:
I wouldn't vote against IF the notes were clear where the data came from, given the release is not for 5 weeks yet.. And i do mean clear notes, did you compile the data in a dark theater...how? Clearly you can't have the disc in your hand, were you writing notes or something, some of your information as I recall was a bit too specific to allow memory to be relied on. You have to explain.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,339 |
| | Posted: | | | | The films credits are the only valid source, however since the disc is not out and you have added more then what most people would remember from when they saw it in the credits they assume you have scraped the data from imdb or similar.
If you have a pre-release copy you should update your notes to reflect, if it's a bootleg you should probably just withdraw because that sort of thing is not permitted here. | | | | -JoN |
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| Registered: December 3, 2008 | | Posts: 186 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks Skip,
Was explained in the note... I guess I was not clear enough! I did use an outside site to get the spelling of the role the actors played because in the Frames I have used they were not mentioned *as the rules permits*..., and only the few crew mentioned between those same frames were used as well their names and task accomplished was mentioned.... what I was not able to copy was after the "fly by", way too small and going too fast... even if I have seen parts of the movie every weekends since December 09 until the end of Feb 10 (thanks to a part time job)...
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| Registered: December 3, 2008 | | Posts: 186 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ruineddaydreams: Quote:
The films credits are the only valid source, however since the disc is not out and you have added more then what most people would remember from when they saw it in the credits they assume you have scraped the data from imdb or similar.
If you have a pre-release copy you should update your notes to reflect, if it's a bootleg you should probably just withdraw because that sort of thing is not permitted here. Actually let me share a story with you regarding boot leg. *My movie collection contains 100% originals*.. any who.. here is something I wrote a few weeks ago - - - - - from Dorcy Eric Lacroix <XXXXXXXXXX@gmail.com> to foxconnect@orderassistance.com date Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:13 PM subject Potential Piracy Reporting - assistance request To whom it may concern, I am sending you this email because according to IMDB.COM your company would be the distributor of "Electric Dreams, 1984" - >http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087197/companycredits Because I am a Canadian resident, should this email be forwarded to another company or local law enforcement, your assistance will be greatly be appreciated. - - - - - - On the 14 of Feb 2010, I made a purchase from "www.XXXXXXXXX.com" of the movie "Electric Dreams" (movie as described at: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087197) which was received by regular mail on 24 Feb 10 and which seems to be an illegal copy. What makes me think that the copy in question could be a pirated copy: - The disc has the title printed which appears to be 'home made' - The main menu on the disc has big Chinese (I think) writing - Seems to be a transfer from a Video. - The envelop in which the disc was sent to me had no return address but 2 Canadian Stamps on it (which indicates to me that the sender is a Canadian resident) - There was no receipt inside the envelope - The slip cover does not have a UPC on the back nor any proof of purchase tab anywhere. I have the digital receipt (PayPal and the Email acknowledging the purchase), the envelope and the disc with his packaging which can be provided if required. Kind regards, E. Lacroix - - - - - - - - Because the FOX did not get back to me, I emailed the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) who told me to get in touch with the Local law enforcement - never heard from them... Unless these people are doing some research about the site where I got that movie from.. that site is still up *I have put XXXX to hide the site in question*. SO no.. I am not encouraging piracy as some might think based on my email... wish my English was better!! Cheers  E. | | | | E |
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| Registered: December 3, 2008 | | Posts: 186 |
| | Posted: | | | | My last point here... you know what ... I should take it out and stop contributing... seems that I am hitting those snags from time to time and it is aggravating.... it is getting painful. Heck, there will always be someone who will do the work and contribute (except the French Canadian version of movies..)!
I will do like the majority and just get the data.. I will live longer haha ;-)
Thanks all!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Holy overreaction Batman.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well Moles  , Electric dreams has yet to be officially released anywhere, so yes that's a Boot, very definitely. I have however heard some rumblings, stay tuned. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 113 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Electric dreams has yet to be officially released anywhere Not quite - it was released in the UK last year |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Really, well that actually lends some credibility to the rumblings I have heard.
Cool.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: December 3, 2008 | | Posts: 186 |
| | Posted: | | | | LOL I know... I blow a gasket every now and then .. but 5 min later I am back to square one hahahah ... | | | | E |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lostmule: Quote:
My last point here... you know what ... I should take it out and stop contributing Just wait a minute. You post a question that didn't get answered as you expected. You give obscure sources for your data (and I don't really care if you own a legit prerelease copy, got a private show in your local cinema, or whatever other possibilities there are to get legal access to the data you claim to have). Since for today no one owns this DVD, I think you'd have to be a bit more specific on your sources. And why is it so important to have unverifiable data contributed?? To a prerelease profile, which are notorious for having incomplete (and sometimes even incorrect) data?? Sorry, but if you're not willing to name your sources, not only for the rolenames (where third party material is widely allowed) but for the contributed cast and crew, it's no miracle at all that you're suspected of piracy. If you can't see why, I really can't help you. To sum it up: No valid source -> No valid data | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lostmule: Quote:
LOL I know... I blow a gasket every now and then .. but 5 min later I am back to square one
hahahah ... That's OK, Moles.  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: December 3, 2008 | | Posts: 186 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting goblinsdoitall: Quote:
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My last point here... you know what ... I should take it out and stop contributing
Just wait a minute.
Sorry, but if you're not willing to name your sources, not only for the rolenames (where third party material is widely allowed) but for the contributed cast and crew, it's no miracle at all that you're suspected of piracy. If you can't see why, I really can't help you.
To sum it up: No valid source -> No valid data My source the FILM STRIP ITSELF <<---- how can I write it better than that?? Sequence starts precisely at 2hrs,34min and 14 seconds (from the IMAX projector's clock - which I am not authorized to touch.... yet hehe) Sequence starts right from the first frame when 20 Century Fox MC appears until the name of the director appear (after the word Avatar)... how can I be more precise than that? | | | | E |
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| Registered: December 3, 2008 | | Posts: 186 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lostmule: Quote:
Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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Quoting Lostmule:
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My last point here... you know what ... I should take it out and stop contributing
Just wait a minute.
Sorry, but if you're not willing to name your sources, not only for the rolenames (where third party material is widely allowed) but for the contributed cast and crew, it's no miracle at all that you're suspected of piracy. If you can't see why, I really can't help you.
To sum it up: No valid source -> No valid data
My source the FILM STRIP ITSELF <<---- how can I write it better than that??
Sequence starts precisely at 2hrs,34min and 14 seconds (from the IMAX projector's clock - which I am not authorized to touch.... yet hehe)
Sequence starts right from the first frame when 20 Century Fox MC appears until the name of the director appear (after the word Avatar)... how can I be more precise than that? The movie has not been released yet, that's just not possible unless you own a pirated copy. What did you do sit in a dark theater, taking notes, not impossible, but if that's you duid explain it. Because you cannot possibly own the movie legally. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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