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I don't think BD is going to overtake DVD for a while.
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Apparently, there are only about 3000 BD titles available after 5 years.  DVD in the same period had 20000.  Today there are supposedly 150K titles on BD.

BD has a while to go....

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I do not think the comparison is exact. Blu-ray begun with a war with HD-DVD, and many users waited for the end of war before looking at HD (a I did). So, we should compare Blu-ray today with DVDs after 3 years...
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OK

"By the end of 2000 there were over 10,000 titles available in the US and over 15,000 worldwide"
"end of 2001 there were about 14,000 titles available in the U.S."
" By the end of 2002 there were about 23,000 titles available in the U.S"

10000 more in 2003 and 11000 more in 2004. 

1997 the start so

3 years 10,000
4 years 14,000
5 years 23,000
6 years 33,000
7 years 44,000

not including "Adult titles"

Charlie

P.S. and to be fair 1997 was a slow year....
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While I think surfeur has a good point, I agree with you, Charlie.

As a Blu owner, it would be nice if they picked up the speed, but at this point there aren't enough people jumping on Blu because, for the majority of the people, the upgrade isn't worth it to them. And the Catch 22 is studios will be slower to release back catalog because the sales won't be there.

I'm glad that smaller companies like Synapse have started releasing in Blu, but I still find myself buying older movies on DVD because either the Blu is not available or the price is not worth justifying. While there have been price drops over the past year, Blu still needs to come down more if it's going to do any real competition to DVD to the average user.
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Has it really been 5 years of title availability?  My first HD purchase (an HD DVD) was in May of 2007, or 3.5 years ago. *EDIT* According to the wiki (which is ALWAYS RIGHT!!!), June 20, 2006 saw the first BD releases.  I hadn't realized I waited so long to jump in. Must be slacking.
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Where are those numbers coming from?  Do those numbers only include Hollywood Studios or any DVD release?
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If movies like Troll 2 and Alien 2: Sulla Terra can get solid Blu-ray releases (and have), I don't really have any worries about the format's appeal.
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If I filter the Invelos database, I see 23665 Blu-Rays worldwide. This is of course including child profiles, but I would assume a lot more than 5000 titles are available.
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I think it's pretty clear to all but the most fervent blu fanboys that the format will never achieve the depth of catalog that DVD has.  Of course, that only matters if you view blu as somehow separate from DVD, rather than an enhanced version of the digital format.  For those who just want the film on whatever format is available, good times are ahead.  For those who refuse to pollute their system with an SD title, it's going to be a limited selection.

Now what I thought was pretty scary was finding out that streaming revenue for the last year was almost as significant as blu revenue.  I'm not sure what that says about either format, but it took me by surprise.
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Apparently, there are only about 3000 BD titles available after 5 years.  DVD in the same period had 20000.  Today there are supposedly 150K titles on BD.

BD has a while to go....

Charlie


First you say there are 3,000 titles available, then you say there are 150,000. Am I the only one who is extremely confused by this statement?
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Apparently, there are only about 3000 BD titles available after 5 years.  DVD in the same period had 20000.  Today there are supposedly 150K titles on BD.

BD has a while to go....

Charlie


First you say there are 3,000 titles available, then you say there are 150,000. Am I the only one who is extremely confused by this statement?



Sorry, that should have been 150k on dvd.

It does look like things are really picking up, which is encouraging.  I read one report that says about 6000 titles on bd as of this year.  The industry pros may not know the exact number.

I Like the BD format, and try to get combos as much as possible, but for older releases, I will not hesitate on a SD version.
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I checked my largest local online retailer to see what's actually available here right now. They currently offer 2053 BD titles and about 20,000 DVD titles so it's a ratio of 1:10. 150k sounds nice but I wonder how they arrived at that number... Realistically they have never been available at the same time to the same people.
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I checked my largest local online retailer to see what's actually available here right now. They currently offer 2053 BD titles and about 20,000 DVD titles so it's a ratio of 1:10. 150k sounds nice but I wonder how they arrived at that number... Realistically they have never been available at the same time to the same people.



I think the numbers they refer (don't quote me) also include titles that were available, but now are out of print.  And unless you are including adult titles (there may be 100k of them alone )  150k may be large.

It probably also includes 3 versions of close encounters, not including the box set.  It may very well be hyper inflated.  But as long as you count the same way on both sides, it should be fair. (although not to many different releases on BD of the same movie yet)

It would be interesting to actually find out how many actual titles(i.e. Close Encounters as 1 title, not worrying about the "SE" or "Directors cut") to give a truly fair comparison of actual titles.

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I have Blus of Night of the Creeps, New York Ripper and Galaxy of Terror, so anything else is just gravy from here!
The format rules, watch Galaxy of Terror in HD and try saying it doesn't, you can't! Comparing the New York Ripper BD to the old dvd is comical how bad the dvd now looks.
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I think the biggest reason why is the dvd titles have to be converted over to 1080..(blue ray/HD),re: 8K

Where and when (standard)  DVD in 1997 just took the already exisiting library (vhs/laser) of 400/ 480 dpi and transferred those to DVD.
If you remember a lot of the early dvd's were not very good quality, and in some cases full frame only..
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I believe that Blu-ray will eventually push aside DVD in the same way that DVD pushed aside VHS. Even with DVDs extreme popularity, it took the halting of VHS film manufacturing to get some people move over.

To think that Blu-ray should have taken over faster than it has now that the format war is over, that they would take over "much sooner" because the quality is better I believe works on the false comparison of "Blu-ray is to DVD as DVD is to VHS". Many people still own only a VCR or had to move to a DVD/VCR combo if their old VCR broke down. Others record movies from tv and save. Many watch movies from their computer at not-so-high-def resolutions. If buying something for the little kid to watch or something not that important, why spend more on Blu-ray when DVD (as was true with VHS in its day) works just fine. A large percentage of people still don't own HD TVs. It's not all about perfect picture clarity for everyone else and means the extra expense of an HD television. Some just "want to watch a movie."


On the plus side, BR has the benefit right now of exponential growth with a larger collection of films to choose from that hasn't yet been released.  They also have the knowledge of whether or not the DVD version sold well a few years earlier to tell them if printing the BR copy would be worth the money.
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