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| Registered: January 21, 2010 |  Posts: 9 |
| | Posted: | | | | How do we handle releases containing multiple versions of a movie with different region codes? Example: In the just released 3D Blu-ray version of Titanic, the 3D discs are regionfree and the 2D disc has region A. What region code should the release get? |
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| Registered: May 16, 2010 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 516 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi
Make the Main Profile for the 3D regioncodefree and for the 2D version a child profile with the Disc Info instead of EAN and there you enter A.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with SwissFilm. Since it's the "3D" version, that 3D disc takes precedence in the main profile and gets region free.
The seperate child profile for the 2D disc can then be entered with A locked region coding. | | | | Corey | | | | Last edited: by Katatonia |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | FWIW I disagree
I think it should be entered as the 'most limited' disc considering child profiles are optional and anyone who just uses the main profile (which should contain all the data) will erroneously believe they the 2D version is Region Free in this case, possibly purchasing an disc they cannot play.
This is espescially true IMO for 3D considering that 3D set-ups are relatively rare and, in certain quarters, unpopular, but the only way to get certain extras may be to get the 3D version of a film. I also think it is more important for BD than DVD since whilst the vast majority have access to a multi-region DVD player, or one that can be made so quite easily, BD players are much more likely to be region locked without the ability to make multi-region without a hardware modification. | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong | | | | Last edited: by Voltaire53 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Voltaire53: Quote:
FWIW I disagree
I think it should be entered as the 'most limited' disc considering child profiles are optional and anyone who just uses the main profile (which should contain all the data) will erroneously believe they the 2D version is Region Free in this case, possibly purchasing an disc they cannot play.
This is espescially true IMO for 3D considering that 3D set-ups are relatively rare and, in certain quarters, unpopular, but the only way to get certain extras may be to get the 3D version of a film. I also think it is more important for BD than DVD since whilst the vast majority have access to a multi-region DVD player, or one that can be made so quite easily, BD players are much more likely to be region locked without the ability to make multi-region without a hardware modification. I can see your point, but this is the "Limited 3D Edition" and there is also a 2D-only Blu-ray release of this. The two 3D discs (Disc 1 & 2) are the first discs in this set, and if they are region-free, then I don't see how you can just skip them and go to Disc 3 (2D) in the set for the region coding in the profile. If the 3D discs were actually bonus discs, sure you'd skip them as far as the region coding goes, but I don't see that as the case here. | | | | Corey | | | | Last edited: by Katatonia |
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| Registered: March 23, 2011 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think you must see all the HD discs as a whole package.
Can the whole package be played on a Region B player? No.
Can the whole package be played on a Region A player? Yes.
So my vote goes to Region A. | | | | Last edited: by No-way |
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  | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | What's the region shown on the cover? | | | | Cor |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
I agree with SwissFilm. Since it's the "3D" version, that 3D disc takes precedence in the main profile and gets region free.
The separate child profile for the 2D disc can then be entered with A locked region coding. This ^ | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! | | | | Last edited: by tweeter |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
| | Posted: | | | | Region needs to be moved to disc information. | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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| Registered: March 23, 2011 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
Region needs to be moved to disc information. And so do subtitles and audio tracks. |
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| Registered: January 21, 2010 | | Posts: 9 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
What's the region shown on the cover? There is no region spec on the cover. Personally, I tend to agree with Voltaire and force. People use this info to determine whether they can e.g. play imported releases on their players. Therefore the parent profile should have the region coding of the most restricted of the included discs to make it immediately obvious that the release is not fully usable in another region. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
I agree with SwissFilm. Since it's the "3D" version, that 3D disc takes precedence in the main While I agree that it should be this way, the rules do not make this distinction when it comes to HD media. HD vs SD, yes. HD vs HD, no. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is no "Box Set", so lowest common denominator. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: May 2, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 490 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
I agree with SwissFilm. Since it's the "3D" version, that 3D disc takes precedence in the main profile and gets Region A.
The seperate child profile for the 2D disc can they be entered with No Region Coding. Excuse me, but what? The OP states that the 3D edition of Titanic is region free. But in the set is also included a region A coded 2D disc. So the main attraction is region free, but not the accommodating 2D disc. But you want to flip it around and state in the profile that the 3D disc is region A encoded while the region A is region free...? That totally makes no sense whatsoever. That's just totally confusing. If a disc is region free, it should say so. And isn't that why we have parent and child profiles? IMO it doesn't matter either what it says on the cover, since the cover can be wrong. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would go with the most restrictive region code, in this case A. I would do the same even if it was just a disc with bonus materials. IMO all discs should be playable in the region of the main profile. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: May 2, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 490 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
I would go with the most restrictive region code, in this case A. I would do the same even if it was just a disc with bonus materials. IMO all discs should be playable in the region of the main profile. If you do this, it's my strict opinion that you have to make a parent profile first for all of the discs. The 3D one and the 2D one. Because, yes, it's good to know that a set is not open to all, but it's also false to state that a disc is region locked if it isn't. Parent: region A Child profile: 3D disc: region free Child profile: 2D disc: region A And the parent profile needs to be created even if the 3D disc is in that immediate profile. For example, a BD combo set has a parent profile for the BD and only one child profile for the DVD. But you couldn't do that here. As much as it's of importance to state that a set is not totally region free, IMO it's providing false and inaccurate data to state that a disc which is region free is locked. I would never accept that kind of info. | | | | Last edited: by MikaLove |
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