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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantTom Smith
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Looking at upcoming releases I see a few listed as Mastered in 4k.

Makes a difference?
Latest scam to get us to buy the same movie again?
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Not now... but later, sure.

Blu-rays started out +10 years ago, and back then you had some people saying "OMG! The higher quality is amazing!" and others saying, "Eh... I don't see enough of a difference to care. DVD is just fine to me." But now, most people have HD TVs in their homes, Blu-ray players upscale DVDs to some degree, so it's like sneaking slowly away from DVDs even though DVDs are still sold.

Another 10-15 years everyone will be wanting an 80" 4K television because they believe that Blu-ray quality sucks.

(I mean, we already have people who wish their 4" smart phone screen had a resolution higher than DVD quality for crying out loud.)
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Another 10-15 years everyone will be wanting an 80" 4K television because they believe that Blu-ray quality sucks.

In ten years everyone will be watching 3D streaming video on eyeglasses.  Their video discs will be with their LP albums.

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They are pretty much the equivalent to Blu-ray what SuperBit was to DVD.
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In ten years everyone will be watching 3D streaming video on eyeglasses.  Their video discs will be with their LP albums.


I certainly hope not. So far I have not seen a single 3D movie where the 3D effect has had any influence on my enjoyment or not-enjoyment of the movie.

3D is not like better special effects. It's just "bluh" for me.
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(I mean, we already have people who wish their 4" smart phone screen had a resolution higher than DVD quality for crying out loud.)

When in fact, they already do.

The iPad screen already has higher resolution than Blu-ray even. It's mad, really.
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It'll be interesting to see more about these as they are released.  The first release of Taxi Driver was from a 4K Scan.  Is this new release just the same transfer minus the bonus content?  I doubt that they would do a new scan of such a recent release....
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What upcoming releases do you see as mastered in 4k?
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This page lists all available information for new and upcoming releases in the Blu-ray format. Please help us keep this list current and error-free -- send us updates and corrections.

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3:10 to Yuma (1957) (Criterion)
The Amazing Spider-Man (Mastered in 4K) (Sony)
Angels & Demons (Mastered in 4K) (Sony)
Back to 1942 (Well Go USA)
Battle: Los Angeles (Mastered in 4K) (Sony)
Battlestar Galactica (1978) (Universal)
The Bletchley Circle (PBS)
Brave New World (Millennium)
Cloud Atlas (Warner Brothers)
Colorful: The Motion Picture (Section 23)
Crimewave (Shout Factory)
Dexter: The Complete Seasons 1-7 (Paramount)
Dexter: The Complete Seventh Season (Showtime)
Escape (2012) (Koch)
Frankie Go Boom (Universal)
Ghostbusters (Mastered in 4K) (Sony)
A Glimpse Inside the Mind of Charles Swan III (Lionsgate)
Glory (Mastered in 4K) (Sony)
Gone (2010) (R Squared) JUST LISTED!
In the Cut / Trapped (Mill Creek)
James Last: Live at the Royal Albert Hall (Eagle Rock)
JFK: A New World Order (Mill Creek)
Jubal (Criterion)
The Karate Kid (2010) (Mastered in 4K) (Sony)
Leave Her to Heaven (Twilight Time)
Mr. Sardonicus / The Brotherhood of Satan (Mill Creek)
National Parks Exploration Series - America's National Parks: An Eagle's View (Mill Creek)
The Nines / Slipstream (Mill Creek)
The Other Guys (Mastered in 4K) (Sony)
Philadelphia (Twilight Time)
Physical Evidence / The Anderson Tapes (Mill Creek)
The Princess and the Pilot (NIS America)
Second Chorus (Film Chest)
Spider-Man (2002) (Mastered in 4K) (Sony)
Taxi Driver (Mastered in 4K) (Sony)
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Anyone seen a good methodical comparison of some of these versus their previous releases?
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Anyone seen a good methodical comparison of some of these versus their previous releases?

From what I understand, this is supposed to be an exact transfer that is as good as the source...meaning, if the source is 4K the transfer is 4K.  On current releases of Sony Blu-rays, the source has been down converted from 2160p to 1080p.  The 4K releases are supposed to be full 2160p.  This article has some good information but, from what I can tell, unless you have 4K compatible equipment, there is no point in upgrading.
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Anyone seen a good methodical comparison of some of these versus their previous releases?

From what I understand, this is supposed to be an exact transfer that is as good as the source...meaning, if the source is 4K the transfer is 4K.  On current releases of Sony Blu-rays, the source has been down converted from 2160p to 1080p.  The 4K releases are supposed to be full 2160p.  This article has some good information but, from what I can tell, unless you have 4K compatible equipment, there is no point in upgrading.

I believe you are wrong. You are talking about real 4K and this "4K mastered" is nothing more than a marketing gimmick.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/7/3848972/sony-planning-to-release-a-range-of-4k-blu-rays
http://www.cnet.com.au/sony-mastered-in-4k-blu-rays-a-mixed-blessing-339344100.htm
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this "4K mastered" is nothing more than a marketing gimmic.


Correct.

In the years leading up to Blu-Ray, DVD's would often say "Mastered in HD" on the cover.

Same thing here.
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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Yes, only the mastering differs, which may or may not result in a measurable improvement in quality, strongly dependent on the quality of the prior release's transfer.  What I'd like to see is an analysis of any of these releases to see if there is a measurable improvement.
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I believe you are wrong. You are talking about real 4K and this "4K mastered" is nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

You are correct, I misread one sentence which changed how I understood it.  It seems that they have been edited in 4K resolution in Sony’s studios and downscaled to Full HD.

While they do say it is an improvement in color, I still don't think it is worth the upgrade.
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