If someone is going to update a field, I can't see why they wouldn't complete it to current standards (crew section & common names excepted due to the extra complexity in those areas).

That said, as long as the contribution is correct with regards to what has been submitted, I will vote yes but point out the bit that could also have been changed. Often it's a simple oversight & they'll quickly update the contribution.

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As has been noted, several times, it is already o.k. to do this.  As long as the data entered is correct, and comes from a valid source, it does not have to be complete.

I can find no support in the rules for that. And if it is ok, why can't the rules be worded as simply as I indicated.
(I guess I posted my previous post in the wrong thread, but maybe I can get the answer here anyway)

This is one area where reading the forums helps. I can't find it right now, but I remember reading a post from Ken and/or Gerri saying as much. I do think that official statements made in the forums that can effect contributions should be added to the rules.

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This is one area where reading the forums helps. I can't find it right now, but I remember reading a post from Ken and/or Gerri saying as much. I do think that official statements made in the forums that can effect contributions should be added to the rules.

You are absolutely right. Not everyone actively reads these forums (me being one of them), so if such official statements are made, they should be added to the contribution rules asap. We shouldn't have to rummage through the forums to look for new additions to the rules... or at least such statements could be gathered in a specific thread, e.g. in the Announcements section or wherever.

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Not everybody reads the forums, nor should they have to.

The point is, judging by the contributions I have seen, people are already aware of this fact.  Most of the contributions I have seen, and I believe Gerri has confirmed that it is the norm, are incomplete.

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I guess I don't see what harm there is in amending the rules with something that is already allowed.

I didn't say there would be any harm, just that I believe it is a non-issue.

I base that opinion on things Ken and Gerri have said and on contributions I have voted on.  99% of the contributions I vote on are partial contributions.  At least, half of those are from people who do not visit these forums.  I had 3 users, just last month, who have more than 300 accepted contributions, each, and zero forum posts.

I suppose it is possible that my experience is unique, seeing as I live in R1US land, but Ken said that we do not have a shortage of contributors and I believe him.

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And that's great. But what I'm saying is, what about those who do not know to do partial contributions? Or are you saying you believe there's zero such people among Invelos' userbase?

I would say that is only possible if they have never looked at any submissions to vote on or spent almost no time in forums.  To me it was very clear that partial contributions were acceptable after just looking at a few of ones up for voting and when previewing the daily updates when I first purchased DVDP.  I do not have any hard data to say it's zero such people but I wound guess it is very low.

Tom

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I would say that is only possible if they have never looked at any submissions to vote on or spent almost no time in forums.  To me it was very clear that partial contributions were acceptable after just looking at a few of ones up for voting and when previewing the daily updates when I first purchased DVDP.

Sure, that sounds like a possible scenario. But I also think the scenario of someone reading the rules and deciding against contributing without ever having looked at forums or existing contirbutions are just as possible.

As for not spending time on fixing something that isn't broken... first off, I disagree that it's not broken. But beyond that, this is a fix that will take maybe half an hour to implement. And considering the possible benefits I think it's very worthwhile. Pick the low hanging fruits first and all that.

KM