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Why Liberals Just Lovve Obama |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Graham:
No, I am not exaggerating. What you have here is a who does not believe in Democracy, he believes in the Collective. He believes in From ecah accoding to his ability. to each according to his need. Those are just two things, the character issue is so bad i wouldn't even know where to begin, I do very firmly that "you shall know the character of the man by the company he keeps." Would you like to talk about in 2006 the people of Illinois elected a SENATOR to the United states, he announced his run for the Presidency TWO months after taking the oath for his senate Office, he subsequently continued taking money to do a job that the people of Illinois elected him to do, he has done ner NOTHING as Senator, the people of Illinois have paid a man not to a do a job but to pursue his own personal political ambitions. When he loses this election and lose he will, i sincerely hope that the people of Illinois will NOT return him to the Senate when his term is up.
I am not in the practice of using hyperbole, graham, this a closelyu held personal belief. But then i have read BOTH of his books...have you.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 374 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
What you have here is a who does not believe in Democracy, he believes in the Collective.
Skip You have a very extreme position here, again you fail to present any underlying facts. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sugar:
Have you read the books written by Obama (partcularly Dreams of My Father), obviously NOT, I have, those and more.
Let me make it even more clear , the man IS a Marxist.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 21, 2007 |  Posts: 171 |
| | Posted: | | | | To Skipnet
I see absolutely nothing that would make Obama a Marxist. You and a few others do have extreme views. It is scary how many do have such extreme views and can't see that they have them.
Again, please give examples of why you are adamant that Obama is a Marxist, and as well think he is the most dangerous person trying to become President ever.
I personally can see why Republicans would sooner not have Obama as he does have very liberal leanings, but in most Democrats' minds this is a good thing.
I suspect only people who are to the extreme right would agree with the alegations you, Hal and Rifter have written here.
No I haven't read Obama's two books. Perhaps you could quote those passages that scare you the most. I truly wish to be enlightened. | | | | Graham |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Fubar:
I would not expect you to see anything, you would have no reason to do the reading, you have no stake in America and cannot vote...though MAYBE in Ohio if you have been there lately. Read the books, do the research and then tell me that.
I said specifically Drams of my father because it is laced through virtually the entire book.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FUBAR: Quote:
No I haven't read Obama's two books. Perhaps you could quote those passages that scare you the most. I truly wish to be enlightened. If you "truely wish to be enlightened" purchase the books and enlighten yourself. By doing so, not only will your "enlightenment" be more fulfilling than receiving "enlightenment" second hand, but the proceeds from the book sales will help Obama in his quest for "Change".  | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| | Registered: June 3, 2007 | | Posts: 333 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Fubar:
I would not expect you to see anything, you would have no reason to do the reading, you have no stake in America and cannot vote...though MAYBE in Ohio if you have been there lately. Read the books, do the research and then tell me that.
I said specifically Drams of my father because it is laced through virtually the entire book.
Skip Translation: "Just Is" |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 374 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Sugar:
Have you read the books written by Obama (partcularly Dreams of My Father), obviously NOT, I have, those and more.
Let me make it even more clear , the man IS a Marxist.
Skip Skip, I am afraid this is not how it works. If you say 'A is true' than you should present the underlying facts/arguments otherwise it remains just an unqualified claim. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Like i told Fubar, sugar. You also have no stake in our political process nor any ability to vote in it. But you can make yourself at least become informed if you wish to address issues. READ THE BOOKS. Yo have libraries in the UK, you don't have to buy them. 3
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 374 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Like i told Fubar, sugar. You also have no stake in our political process nor any ability to vote in it. But you can make yourself at least become informed if you wish to address issues. READ THE BOOKS. Yo have libraries in the UK, you don't have to buy them. 3
Skip Translation: I can not document my statement. |
| | Registered: April 8, 2007 | | Posts: 1,057 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi Guys,
Sugar, Fubar - greenies to both of you!
It's like someones sounding an alarm, but won't tell you what the danger is. Where should I look to avoid the danger!
Failure to provide the proof, when asked, for makes your arguments/dangers, look hollow & not substantial. You guys want to come off as believable, then supply the facts, preferably from diverse sources.
Take Care
Rico | | | If I felt any better I'd be sick!
Envy is mental theft. If you covet another mans possessions, then you should be willing to take on his responsibilities, heartaches, and troubles, along with his money. D. Koontz |
| | Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Posts: 262 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ye ask and ye shall receive....(although I doubt any amount of information will convince you we should be concerned about Obama's radical past). Is Barack Obama A Marxist Mole?In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama’s life as a “secret smoker” and how he “went to great lengths to conceal the habit.” But what about Obama’s secret political life? It turns out that Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist. In his books, Obama admits attending “socialist conferences” and coming into contact with Marxist literature. But he ridicules the charge of being a “hard-core academic Marxist,” which was made by his colorful and outspoken 2004 U.S. Senate opponent, Republican Alan Keyes....... |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | You're kidding, right? An article on AIM is the best "evidence" you can come up with?  |
| | Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Posts: 262 |
| | Posted: | | | | More and more.... Another Obama MarxistQuote:
Barack Obama has a thing for Marxists. He befriends them, listens to their counsel, and he even hires them to work in his campaign. And they seem to feel the warmth. President Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua, who led a revolution there in 1979, says Barack Obama's presidential bid is a "revolutionary" phenomenon, and Americans are "laying the foundations for a revolutionary change." A captured computer revealed that an unknown person chatted with Marxist FARC guerillas on Obama's behalf (they believed), stating he would be the next President and US policy towards Columbia would change. Frank Marshall Davis, a dear Obama friend and mentor was as a member of the Communist Party USA. Barack Obama just seems to attract Marxists.
If the people he surrounds himself with are any indication of his core beliefs, a higher capital gains tax to punish the rich, even if it diminishes actual tax revenue, may be only the beginning. Obama's Official campaign blogger, Sam Graham-Felsen, a former writer for the leftist Nation magazine and a contributor to the Socialist Viewpoint, is certainly a believer in class warfare. Obama's Marxist Underpinnings. Is it any wonder he said what he said?Obama office adores psychotic Marxist thug |
| | Registered: March 21, 2007 | | Posts: 171 |
| | Posted: | | | | This article might be put out by AIM which is short for Accuracy In Media, but it certainly doesn't really stand for accuracy, does it? This is a blatantly ultra right website hiding behind a purposely misleading name. What utter crap to introduce as convincing justification to the allegations presented by Skip. You are kidding yourself. | | | | Graham |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 51 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting sugarjoe: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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What you have here is a who does not believe in Democracy, he believes in the Collective.
Skip
You have a very extreme position here, again you fail to present any underlying facts. What do you expect from a person who uses the word liberal as an insult and not able to distinguish between communism, socialism and social democracy? Skips political development seems to be stopped at the end of the McCarthy era. | | | Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience.
Wir gegen die Gier - Joseph Weizenbaum (1923 - 2008):
Nichts wird unsere Kinder und Kindeskinder vor einer irdischen Hölle retten.
Es sei denn: Wir organisieren den Widerstand gegen die Gier des globalen Kapitalismus. |
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