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Have you read the books written by Obama (partcularly Dreams of My Father), obviously NOT, I have, those and more.

Let me make it even more clear , the man IS a Marxist.

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[a href="Overview  AIM was founded by Reed Irvine in 1969, when Irvine called for sedition charges to be brought against Students for a Democratic Society, the Black Panthers and the Progressive Labor Party, arguing, "If you're going to halt treason, you've got to do it while it's small." [Village Voice, January 21, 1986]  In the 1970s, Irvine endeared himself to the New Right by alleging that the corporate media were a propaganda tool for the Soviet KGB and Fidel Castro. In 1982, AIM attacked New York Times reporter Raymond Bonner for his reports (later proven accurate--see Extra!, January/February 1993) about the El Mozote massacre. Along with the Wall Street Journal editorial page, AIM succeeded in pressing the Times to pull Bonner from his Salvadoran beat.  Irvine later called for napalm to be used against FMLN guerrillas in El Salvador. (AIM Report, March 1990). During the Gulf War, he encouraged a nuclear strike against Iraq. [Seattle Times, January 16, 1991]  With the end of the Cold War, AIM now assails environmentalists as the "infiltrators" of the media establishment. Critical reports about industries that fund AIM--such as chemical and oil interests--ara a frequent target of AIM critiques.  During the Clinton era, alleged conspiracies related to the Democratic president were a frequent topic in AIM's work--particularly the notion that Vince Foster was not a suicide but a victim of foul play. AIM charged that Republicans, including independent counsel Kenneth Starr, were somehow complicit in covering up Clinton's plots; discussing Hillary Rodham Clinton's notion of a "vast right-wing conspiracy," Irvine retorted that "the only conspiracy I knew of was the conspiracy of the Republican leadership to protect Bill Clinton." [AIM Report, February 1998]  AIM has been criticized as a censorious group eager to silence voices it disagrees with and disdainful of the First Amendment. The group for a time offered as a donation premium Target America, written by AIM board member James L. Tyson, a book advocating that government "ombudsmen" police major-network newscasts for "accuracy" and "fairness". [1]  Reed Irvine suffered a stroke in 2003 and died in November 2004. His son, Don Irvine, succeeded him as AIM chairman. "]

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What you have here is a who does not believe in Democracy, he believes in the Collective.
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You have a very extreme position here, again you fail to present any underlying facts.

What do you expect from a person who uses the word liberal as an insult and not able to distinguish between communism, socialism and social democracy? Skips political development seems to be stopped at the end of the McCarthy era.

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Obama’s Marxist Roots Exposed

Criticism of Barack Obama’s infamous role as a community organizer has been labeled racist and inappropriately demeaning but few know that the Democratic presidential candidate’s sort of “organizing” is based on a revolutionary Marxists agenda.

Most people wouldn’t know that based on media coverage of the controversy, which has focused on Obama’s fiery speeches defending his noble community organizer duties as promoting social change from the bottom up and rejuvenating impoverished neighborhoods that have “fallen on hard times.”

Plenty of sound bites have featured passionate liberals vehemently defending their messiah’s good work and one major state’s governor actually accusing Republicans of being racist for using the words community organizer as a “code for black.”

Lost in the hoopla is that the crucial history of the sort of community organizing that Obama proudly conducted in Chicago; the role was developed by an extreme leftwing radical intellectual (Saul Alinsky) from Chicago who promoted a Marxist revolution through systematic deception.

In an article published this week by a British news magazine that focuses on politics, Obama’s true Marxist colors are exposed as well as his connections to Alinsky, whom he never met but idolized. The Illinois senator was trained by an Alinsky-founded group and he worked for an organization that promoted the radical’s so-called just and democratic society.

Obama’s goal, according to the exposé, was promoting the cause of black people and achieving “reparations” from white society, a perspective through which his welfare redistribution agenda is framed. During his three-year community organizer stint in Chicago, he mobilized black people for action against their white oppressors.

This is why the senator joined forces with the now famous Trinity Church of Christ, run by the radical longtime pastor (Jeremiah Wright) who blamed the U.S. for causing the 2001 terrorist attacks and damned America for treating blacks less than human. Wright married the Obama’s and baptized their two children and the senator made his good friend and pastor an important presidential campaign advisor.

Considering that Obama could very well become the nation’s next commander-in-chief, his documented Marxist roots certainly deserve more coverage in the mainstream American media. Don’t hold your breathe, though.

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Like i told Fubar, sugar. You also have no stake in our political process nor any ability to vote in it. But you can make yourself at least become informed if you wish to address issues. READ THE BOOKS. Yo have libraries in the UK, you don't have to buy them. 3

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Translation: I can not document my statement.

He most certainly did.  He told you the source of the information that led to his opinion.  It is NOT incumbent on him to regurgitate that word for word.  If you wish to verify what he said, read the book and either refute what he said, or not.

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There is not going to be a "smoking gun" here and no outright "proof" whatever that would constitute. The issue is what are Obama's true feelings about the US, Capitalism etc. and are they quite a bit different than what he's presenting.

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I say his past associations, friendships, and connections are very relevant to this election and whether he is who he says he is. The evidence presented in the article(s) isn't "conclusive" nor can it be realistically but it does raise questions about his radical past and whether the smooth talking seemingly moderate uniter he claims to be is a fraud.

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You can say the same thing about McCain. Up until this Friday McCain was inciting terrorists at his rallies.

This is a simply outrageous statement and demonstrates that you are incapable of serious discussions about the current political race.

Maybe terrorist was not the right word to use, but when you use fear tactics to incite outrageous remarks from your supporters and don't do anything about it for a few days, people start talking.
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"I have to tell you, he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States," McCain said to boos and groans from supporters.

"If you want a fight, we will fight," McCain said. "But we will be respectful. I admire Senator Obama and his accomplishments. ... I don't mean that has to reduce your ferocity; I just mean to say you have to be respectful."

At one point, McCain grabbed the microphone from a woman who had begun to say she didn't like Obama because he is an Arab. "No, ma'am. No, ma'am," McCain said. "He's a decent family man, a citizen who I just happen to have serious differences with on fundamental questions."