| Registered: May 26, 2007 |  Posts: 57 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Calidain: Quote:
I was happy to see Firefly on the list...still one of my favorite all-time Sci-Fi shows ever!!! I still wish for a 2nd season!!! Couldn't agree more. Enjoyed the Serenity movie as well. I'd like to see them do one more if possible. | | | | Last edited: by FLighT |
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| Registered: January 5, 2008 | | Posts: 70 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well put VibroCount. The problem you have here though is one of 'you say tomato', 'I say tomahto'. Art of any kind should probably never be put into 'The best of..' categories because it is too subjective and individual to each person that views it. If after full consideration and the urge to categorize it is too strong to resist, then it must be done under a very specific set of circumstances that help you eliminate the subjectivity of it. Whether it's the futuristic plight of man, the dealing with current social and cultural aspects of society in a future-tense, or just plain blow em up special effects, imho the 'good', 'bad', 'best' of science fiction is going to depend upon what that book or film says to the individual, whether it 'speaks to him or not'. Otherwise, the logical conclusion that science fiction (or any other genre for that matter) has to fit into a certain niche would lead to everyone agreeing all the time what 'good' science fiction is. For instance, I have been reading/watching science fiction most of my life (I'm older than dirt :-)... but I cannot stand Star Wars. Just doesn't do anything for me...never has. To many science fiction pundits that is equivalent to blasphemy. All that said, imho, that list is crap.  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TraneMan: Quote:
Well put VibroCount. The problem you have here though is one of 'you say tomato', 'I say tomahto'. Art of any kind should probably never be put into 'The best of..' categories because it is too subjective and individual to each person that views it. If after full consideration and the urge to categorize it is too strong to resist, then it must be done under a very specific set of circumstances that help you eliminate the subjectivity of it. Whether it's the futuristic plight of man, the dealing with current social and cultural aspects of society in a future-tense, or just plain blow em up special effects, imho the 'good', 'bad', 'best' of science fiction is going to depend upon what that book or film says to the individual, whether it 'speaks to him or not'. Otherwise, the logical conclusion that science fiction (or any other genre for that matter) has to fit into a certain niche would lead to everyone agreeing all the time what 'good' science fiction is. For instance, I have been reading/watching science fiction most of my life (I'm older than dirt :-)... but I cannot stand Star Wars. Just doesn't do anything for me...never has. To many science fiction pundits that is equivalent to blasphemy. All that said, imho, that list is crap. I liked Star Wars -- in fact, I saw it at noon opening day, in a large theater with 12 other people (including my then wife). They gave us programs and "May the Force Be with You" buttons. During "The Empire Strikes Back", my daughter (who was 3 or 4 at the time) was the one during the first shot/dialog from Yoda who yelled out "It's Grover wearing a mask!" thus destroying all dialog for the next ten minutes. Good space opera. I understand not comparing pop media to high art. Otherwise we'd have "Solaris" (the first one) and little else. But I gotta tell you, most good science fiction movies would never make the top 100 films of all time. Film as art seems to rarely include this particular genre. Yet, I watch and own many science fiction films. I remember seeing "Forbidden Planet" in the movie theater first run... and then, a few years later, delighting at seeing my first live performance of "The Tempest". Science fiction in visual media can be a delight -- I like Firefly, ST:TNG, 2001, The Man in the White Suit, The Brother from Another Planet, Quantum Leap, and the current Battlestar Galactica series, among others. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
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| Registered: January 5, 2008 | | Posts: 70 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yeah..the genre does NOT get the serious credit it is due..I was an original Trek fan when it was first run on TV and continue to watch many of them today as cheesy as they seem now...haha. Later I think I watched every TNG show first run and own the 1st Season on DVD. 2001 I saw in the theaters when it was first released and everyone was wondering wth are Kubrick and Clarke talking about and have watched it many times since. Many of my favorite books never made it to film such as The Foundation Trilogy by Asimov and others...ah well..I love the genre. |
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