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Windows Vista: I Officially Give Up |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 756 |
| | Posted: | | | | I built myself a dual boot machine before Xmas. Dual core 3GHz, 2GB RAM, 8800GTX, Soundblaster Elite, yada, yada, Vista on one drive, XP Pro on the second and all user data on the third.
Primary boot is Vista SP1. no major problems except for scanner. My UMAX scanner is a "heap of junk" on Vista....no drivers from either Microsoft or UMAX. My thoughts on this particular subject (especially having wasted my time in contacting both companies and been given the old two-fingered salute from both) are unprintable!
Secondary boot is XP Pro SP3 for my older war-games (mostly SSI & Talonsoft) and the SCANNER!!!
My opinion: Vista is very pretty but does not have the "killer feature" that would make it a "must upgrade" over XP. | | | | Chris | | | | Last edited: by Mole |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just when I finally got XP working pretty good, I bought a new PC, with Vista and now after over a year it's finally running somewhat stable. That is if you discount the fact my fancy interface to my scanner disappeared, (this happened before, but I forgot what I did to get it back, and I occasionally have reload the PCP plugin, etc.
Why does Vista have almost a hundred updates, not counting all the other software updates to run on it.
I would be very a happy man if I could get as much use out of my PC as the virus, spyware, malware spam blocker and microsoft and other updates. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
Ineptocracy, You got to love it.
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln |
| | Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mole: Quote:
I built myself a dual boot machine before Xmas. Dual core 3GHz, 2GB RAM, 8800GTX, Soundblaster Elite, yada, yada, Vista on one drive, XP Pro on the second and all user data on the third.
Primary boot is Vista SP1. no major problems except for scanner. My UMAX scanner is a "heap of junk" on Vista....no drivers from either Microsoft or UMAX. My thoughts on this particular subject (especially having wasted my time in contacting both companies and been given the old two-fingered salute from both) are unprintable!
Secondary boot is XP Pro SP3 for my older war-games (mostly SSI & Talonsoft) and the SCANNER!!!
My opinion: Vista is very pretty but does not have the "killer feature" that would make it a "must upgrade" over XP. I agree, scanners are the weak point in Vista. But I would blame the scanner manufacturers rather than MS, for not providing proper drivers. The advice HP gives to solve the problem: "buy a new scanner". But new scanners are either combined with a printer (and of relatively low quality) or expenisive professional stuff. I would love to use my XP system for the scanner, but after SP3 wrecked the system, I can't get scanners and printers to work. | | | | Hans |
| | Registered: April 4, 2007 |  Posts: 879 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mole: Quote:
Secondary boot is XP Pro SP3 for my older war-games (mostly SSI & Talonsoft) Oh, someone with taste! unfortunately I haven't found the time to get into any serious war-sim since Panzer General 3D... | | | | - Jan |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | I haven't had any problems with Vista but I do notice that it loves to thrash my hard drive almost non-stop, even if I disabled indexing on all files and folders. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,338 |
| | Posted: | | | | I am now running XP SP3  | | | | -JoN |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
If you own an official copy of Vista, MS is obligated to provide you an activation key for XP. Basically, this means you just have to borrow the media from somebody. The catch is, you have to activate over the phone as MS is not surprisingly all that eager for folks to downgrade. Not that easy... a) the right to downgrade has to be granted explicitly in the EULA (paragraph 14) - over here in Europe it is only included with OEM and SystemBuilder licenses... b) you have to own any valid copy of XP including the installation key - M$ is only willing to activate it... Regards, AA | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: September 1, 2007 | | Posts: 6 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have no problems with vista either, people tend to have trouble when they run these newer Operating Systems on old kit or try using old prepherials (scanners, printers, etc) with it. I remember when XP was still quite new and people were saying that that they wouldnt move from Windows 2000 and XP was just bloatware, those same people are now using XP and calling vista bloatware. They all move to the latest Microsoft OS eventually they just delay it a little longer & why not, there is no rush. For most people, they may as well wait until they're ready to buy a new PC.
Always wanted to give Mac OS a try though, never got round to it and I might find the lack of software a bit limiting. What does Mac OS have instead of Microsoft Office and does it let you work with MS Office documents? | | | | Last edited: by scottclr |
| | Registered: May 22, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scottclr: Quote:
I have no problems with vista either, people tend to have trouble when they run these newer Operating Systems on old kit or try using old prepherials (scanners, printers, etc) with it. I remember when XP was still quite new and people were saying that that they wouldnt move from Windows 2000 and XP was just bloatware, those same people are now using XP and calling vista bloatware. They all move to the latest Microsoft OS eventually they just delay it a little longer & why not, there is no rush. For most people, they may as well wait until they're ready to buy a new PC.
Always wanted to give Mac OS a try though, never got round to it and I might find the lack of software a bit limiting. What does Mac OS have instead of Microsoft Office and does it let you work with MS Office documents? i don't use a Mac, but pretty sure you can get MS Office for Mac. Plus there are other programs, Open Office, that I beleive will read office documents. -Agrare |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 273 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Agrare: Quote:
Quoting scottclr:
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...Always wanted to give Mac OS a try though, never got round to it and I might find the lack of software a bit limiting. What does Mac OS have instead of Microsoft Office and does it let you work with MS Office documents?
i don't use a Mac, but pretty sure you can get MS Office for Mac. Plus there are other programs, Open Office, that I beleive will read office documents.
-Agrare Yes, there is Office for the Mac ( here). |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,741 |
| | | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scottclr: Quote:
Always wanted to give Mac OS a try though, never got round to it and I might find the lack of software a bit limiting. What does Mac OS have instead of Microsoft Office and does it let you work with MS Office documents? Neo Office is for mac, its based on Open Office: http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.phpI use Open Office at work (eventhough i also have MS office) and i've only had problems with some MS word documents. It opens them and all that, but sometimes the layouts get a bit messed. I've had problems with the automated table of contents and once some picture didnt show properly. Never had any problems with excel files. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,217 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scottclr: Quote:
I have no problems with vista either, people tend to have trouble when they run these newer Operating Systems on old kit or try using old prepherials (scanners, printers, etc) with it. Well, it seems unacceptable to buy every peripheral new every time you update your OS. So a new OS that doesn't support e.g. an "old" USB-Scanner is defective in my book. Quote:
I remember when XP was still quite new and people were saying that that they wouldnt move from Windows 2000 and XP was just bloatware, I still think this, hence I still use Windows 2000.  My current installation is 2 years old (when I got a new mainboard) and steady as a rock. cya, Mithi | | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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