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What would you compare it to, Hal? He did say that it would be just as powerful, just as strong and just as well funded. To me, that would include air and ground forces along with all of the equipment and armament.

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I think the video says it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s&eurl


Here is what it means to us.

The Germans called their "Civilian National Security Force" the
"Brownshirts" or the "SA" before they changed the name to the "SS".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_shirts

The USSR call theirs the "KGB".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kgb

The Cubans call theirs the "Committees for the Defense of the Revolution." 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committees_for_the_Defense_of_the_Revolution
Each block or neighborhood has one.  They rat out their neighbors who express politically incorrect views.

Dear Dan,

As can be seen by goodguy's post your comment "I think the video says it all" is just the usual misleading tripe that ultra right Republicans are becoming known for.  Shame on you.

While it may be over-reacting to compare this statement to the "SS" or the "KGB", I think it is more than fair to ask exactly what he meant by this.

I listened to the entire video.  He spoke separately about the "real" military, the Peace Corps, AmeriCorps and a "Civilian National Security Force".  We already have a National Guard.  So what exactly is this "Civilian National Security Force"?  I'd certainly like to know more about what he means.

Listening to his speech reminded me of what an excellent speaker he is and how easy it is to be mesmerized into thinking that he really wants to help all Americans.  Unfortunately, it just isn't true!

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Quoting FUBAR:

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Quoting Dan W:

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I think the video says it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s&eurl


Here is what it means to us.

The Germans called their "Civilian National Security Force" the
"Brownshirts" or the "SA" before they changed the name to the "SS".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_shirts

The USSR call theirs the "KGB".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kgb

The Cubans call theirs the "Committees for the Defense of the Revolution." 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committees_for_the_Defense_of_the_Revolution
Each block or neighborhood has one.  They rat out their neighbors who express politically incorrect views.

Dear Dan,

As can be seen by goodguy's post your comment "I think the video says it all" is just the usual misleading tripe that ultra right Republicans are becoming known for.  Shame on you.

While it may be over-reacting to compare this statement to the "SS" or the "KGB", I think it is more than fair to ask exactly what he meant by this.

I listened to the entire video.  He spoke separately about the "real" military, the Peace Corps, AmeriCorps and a "Civilian National Security Force".  We already have a National Guard.  So what exactly is this "Civilian National Security Force"?  I'd certainly like to know more about what he means.

Listening to his speech reminded me of what an excellent speaker he is and how easy it is to be mesmerized into thinking that he really wants to help all Americans.  Unfortunately, it just isn't true!

Hal,
Are you actually questioning the motives of, "THE ONE?" 

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I usually try to stay out of these, but this one really caught my attention, so I went to read the transcript. It is human nature to read into things what you expect - or want - or don't want, as the case may be.

Here is a quote that told me what I wanted to know:

"That also means, by the way, that we’re going to have to, I believe, reconfigure our civilian national security force. In a way that just hasn’t been done.
I mean, we still have a national security apparatus on the civilian side in the way the State Department is structured and [Agency for International Development] and all these various agencies. That hearkens back to the Cold War. And we need that wing of our national security apparatus to carry its weight. When we talk about reinventing our military, we should reinvent that apparatus as well. "

I read this as meaning restructuring what we already have - not creating something new. Of course we already have many civilian agencies under Dept of Homeland Security, we have the FBI, CIA , etc. All of these agencies are National in scope and focused on security in some way or the other. All of these agencies have been re-focused, re-organized and re-missioned from time to time, most notably after Sept 11. (I was in NYC on that day - still have nightmares).

That's the way I read it, anyway.

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Not to split hairs but it is against the CIA's charter to spy internally.

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Doess anyone have a link to what he intend this organization to do? I can make that single statement on the youtube span anything from a standard civil defence force to a totalitarian police force.

The full speech (Colorado, July 2nd):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw
The part in question come up in the middle of the speech, around the 16min mark.

Here is some background info, including an interview transcript:
http://www.federaltimes.com/index.php?S=3617703