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Why is Skip now Dr. Pavlov? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,436 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting xradman: Quote:
Subliminal message somehow??? I'm not getting it. Maybe so Skip can contribute again...? skipnet50 once announced that he won't contribute anymore; may not apply to Dr Pavlov...? Then again, that announcement may have been broken a while back; I have not been here regularly for a while now. | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative) |
| | Registered: August 16, 2007 |  Posts: 113 |
| | Posted: | | | | Personally I think that a gentleman such as Skip could call himself whatever he likes  And that goes for any of us really... I do of course, find it odd that a thread was created to discuss it. Should I be concerned if I change my nick?  Should we all be concerned? Is Big Brother really watching us? And if so, where the heck is the camera installed so I can break it  | | | | Last edited: by icefyre |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Twenty years ago I was the design director of a weekly newspaper insert magazine. Which meant I took the copy, photos and ads and created exactly how each magazine looked. Of course I'd get suggestions from the photographers, writers and editor, but only the publisher could demand that I change anything.
We had been in business for a year, and according to the employee handbook, we were all due our annual raise. Well, ad sales were off, printing costs were up and in order to survive, we all got minor pay cuts. To compensate for the losses, the publisher offered everyone "the title you want". Yup, any title at all, as long as someone didn't already have that title. So the editor became executive editor, our one writer became senior correspondent, etc. They asked me what I wanted for my new title, and somehow (I had been watching VHS tapes of the Flash Gordon serials) I asked for (and received, including a few dozon business cards) the title of Supreme Emperor of the Universe.
Yup, I became Ming the Merciless's successor.
Hey Skip, you still ringing bells? | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff | | | | Last edited: by VibroCount |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yep. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VibroCount: Quote:
Twenty years ago I was the design director of a weekly newspaper insert magazine. Which meant I took the copy, photos and ads and created exactly how each magazine looked. Of course I'd get suggestions from the photographers, writers and editor, but only the publisher could demand that I change anything.
We had been in business for a year, and according to the employee handbook, we were all due our annual raise. Well, ad sales were off, printing costs were up and in order to survive, we all got minor pay cuts. To compensate for the losses, the publisher offered everyone "the title you want". Yup, any title at all, as long as someone didn't already have that title. So the editor became executive editor, our one writer became senior correspondent, etc. They asked me what I wanted for my new title, and somehow (I had been watching VHS tapes of the Flash Gordon serials) I asked for (and received, including a few dozon business cards) the title of Supreme Emperor of the Universe.
Yup, I became Ming the Merciless's successor.  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote:
Seems fitting enough. I know I am conditioned to cringe every time I see Walt Disney anywhere. Poor Walt never did anything to me yet I have developed a very strong dislike for the man. I've always loved the Disney animation features, especially the early ones, and Donald Duck and Chip 'n' Dale are still my favorite cartoons. But I never really appreciated just how much Disney has contributed to my enjoyment of movies in general until I started collecting the tinned DVD collections. The man was a genius. His contributions to animation are astounding: he was the first to produce a cartoon with a story rather than just silly characters in syncopation with the music; he produced the first sound cartoon (Steamboat Willie introducing Mickey Mouse); he produced the first color cartoon; he literally created the animated feature length movie genre with Snow White; he was the first to use depth of field techniques in animated works. Not many people know that he mortgaged his house, the studio, and all the houses of his family members to raise enough money to finish Snow White during the Depression. If that had failed, there would be no Disney Studios, no animated feature industry, etc. So, I am wondering what it is about the man that you find so distasteful? Keep in mind that most of the really controversial stuff associated with Disney has taken place AFTER he passed away and others took over. Eisner comes immediately to mind. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
So, I am wondering what it is about the man that you find so distasteful? Keep in mind that most of the really controversial stuff associated with Disney has taken place AFTER he passed away and others took over. Eisner comes immediately to mind. I am a Disney lover since as far back as I can remember. Disney hatred (or even just Disney dread) started long before Disney died. There are narrow-minded elitists who despise Disney for dumbing-down great works -- those who feel that his studio took great children's literature and condensed and popularized it for grossly commercial purposes. For example, if you compare Disney's Pinocchio to Collodi's book, one valid criticism is that Disney took a very Italian character and made him seem as if he were an American. And all of Disney's fairy tale interpretations have been sanitized, removing anything but one bad person, with everyone else having positive motives. It's as if these elitist types cannot imagine knowing and liking two versions of the same story, that only the most complex (or at least, only the original) story is valid. I know there are many other reasons to dislike Disney -- I cite only one which I have encountered. My love of all things Disney wanes with The Sword in the Stone, going into full dislike for The Jungle Book, on up through Oliver & Company. I found the writing of those films to be subpar. Starting with The Little Mermaid, I think Disney returned to animation delight. I am also a big fan of Return to Oz, but that's a different story... Yet, off we go for a week at Disneyland next month...  | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,491 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VibroCount: Quote:
Yet, off we go for a week at Disneyland next month... --- I was there with My Granddaugher last year,, (I'm in the shorts behind her... ) | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry |
| | Registered: June 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,208 |
| | Posted: | | | | Looking at that vid I think its quite clear that child isn't happy about being dragged to Disneyland |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Looks like Snow White is ready to go in...  | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Oh the stories i could tell. Rick was actually an excellent example of the new name. Thank you for verifying the theory. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VibroCount: Quote:
Quoting Rifter:
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So, I am wondering what it is about the man that you find so distasteful? Keep in mind that most of the really controversial stuff associated with Disney has taken place AFTER he passed away and others took over. Eisner comes immediately to mind.
I am a Disney lover since as far back as I can remember. Disney hatred (or even just Disney dread) started long before Disney died. There are narrow-minded elitists who despise Disney for dumbing-down great works -- those who feel that his studio took great children's literature and condensed and popularized it for grossly commercial purposes. For example, if you compare Disney's Pinocchio to Collodi's book, one valid criticism is that Disney took a very Italian character and made him seem as if he were an American. And all of Disney's fairy tale interpretations have been sanitized, removing anything but one bad person, with everyone else having positive motives.
It's as if these elitist types cannot imagine knowing and liking two versions of the same story, that only the most complex (or at least, only the original) story is valid.
I know there are many other reasons to dislike Disney -- I cite only one which I have encountered.
My love of all things Disney wanes with The Sword in the Stone, going into full dislike for The Jungle Book, on up through Oliver & Company. I found the writing of those films to be subpar. Starting with The Little Mermaid, I think Disney returned to animation delight. I am also a big fan of Return to Oz, but that's a different story...
Yet, off we go for a week at Disneyland next month... There is no doubt that there are differences in version of many of the story lines, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing -- there are a lot of reasons involved in such decisions. The biggest impediment I can think of for any movie, live or animated, is translating the original story from the printed page to a visual medium. Then you have to consider how much it will cost to produce, and how a more complex story will affect the bottom line. You also have to consider the target audience and their level of sophistication. Americans in general are not noted for any great level of literacy concerning the classics. Many of the famous European fairy tales were noted actually intended for children to start with, and many people in this country would not consider the original versions appropriate for small children that was Disney's main target audience with the animated features. Rather than slam Disney for how he did it, I think that he got a lot of people involved in these old stories that wouldn't be otherwise, and provided a lot of wholesome entertainment for generations of children and their parents. For that he deserves a lot of credit. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
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