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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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Yes I was Hal. Thanks for spelling it out for those who missed the painfully obvious.

Certainly not that obvious, just show me where in this quote the word "crew credit and crew credit only" are written?

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As I suggested a couple of years ago, "open credits" is the only way to solve the bulk of these silly problems. Just enter what you see as you see it on the screen.

Don't try to make me look like a NFBSK idiot, I can do it myself and this is not the case here.
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As I suggested a couple of years ago, "open credits" is the only way to solve the bulk of these silly problems. Just enter what you see as you see it on the screen.

I don't like the idea of 'open credits'.  I prefer the current system with one change...make the 'custom role' field contributable.  That way, we still have crew 'categories', but can record the actual on-screen credit as well.
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Yes I was Hal. Thanks for spelling it out for those who missed the painfully obvious.

Certainly not that obvious, just show me where in this quote the word "crew credit and crew credit only" are written?

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As I suggested a couple of years ago, "open credits" is the only way to solve the bulk of these silly problems. Just enter what you see as you see it on the screen.

Don't try to make me look like a NFBSK idiot, I can do it myself and this is not the case here.

It should have been obvious because we already have 'open credits' for cast...meaning we already enter what we see as we see it on the screen.  Why would Dan suggest that we do something we are already doing? 

Btw, what is an NFBSK idiot? 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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I'm against that for the following reasons -

  • Different versions of the same film may not have the same credits. For example the Star Wars special edition Vs the original release of the films. Or Directors cuts Vs standard editions. In both cases they can relate to the same film but still have subtle differences to the credits.


  • Different localities can have different credits for dubbing & the like.


  • Who decides which films to link?


  • If you submit a change for cast/crew on a profile, who gets to vote, only the people with that specific release or everyone with that title.


  • While I agree that linking that sort of info would be a good idea in theory, I think in practice it would be too hard to implement.



    I see some reasonable arguments here.

    Well, Director's Cuts. Extended cuts, and so on need to be distinguished from the normal version. (if that is possible, I am no programmer)

    If cast and/or crew is changed all people who own this film, no matter what region, are allowed to vote. (that should be doable).

    I see no way to fix the problem of the different dubbing, especially with animes

    Well, the film that gets an update and is accepted will be the one that is linked to all others.

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    I also totally agree that profiles of the same film should be linked, cast and crew wise.


    I'm against that for the following reasons -

  • Different versions of the same film may not have the same credits. For example the Star Wars special edition Vs the original release of the films. Or Directors cuts Vs standard editions. In both cases they can relate to the same film but still have subtle differences to the credits.


  • Different localities can have different credits for dubbing & the like.


  • Who decides which films to link?


  • If you submit a change for cast/crew on a profile, who gets to vote, only the people with that specific release or everyone with that title.


  • While I agree that linking that sort of info would be a good idea in theory, I think in practice it would be too hard to implement.


    The vast majority of all editions of the same film have exactly the same credits. Many of them even share the exact same disc. The rest can be handled with exceptions, just as we handle them for profile links today. By using a checkbox you could make them profile specific. But you don't design a system around the exceptions, you design them for the bulk of the data and this would go a long way of clearing up the current mess. A small inconvenience would easily weigh up a gigantic one.
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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    we already enter what we see as we see it on the screen.

    Maybe I don't understand clearly or something get lost in translation (my english isn't too bad, but it's not my first language), but when I see write what is written on the screen only I read don't use "credited as" since it isn't what is on screen. This equals to me the way to do it in the 2.0 version.
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    Btw, what is an NFBSK idiot? 

    Just an expression that came from another board where I am a member.

    NFBSK = Not For British School Kids

    So it's curse words without offensing anyone.
    DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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    we already enter what we see as we see it on the screen.

    Maybe I don't understand clearly or something get lost in translation (my english isn't too bad, but it's not my first language), but when I see write what is written on the screen only I read don't use "credited as" since it isn't what is on screen. This equals to me the way to do it in the 2.0 version.

    Well, at least, I now know why it wasn't obvious to you.  Thanks for the explanation.
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    Btw, what is an NFBSK idiot? 

    Just an expression that came from another board where I am a member.

    NFBSK = Not For British School Kids

    So it's curse words without offensing anyone.

    Thanks for that explanation as well.
    No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
    There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
    Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
    The Centauri learned this lesson once.
    We will teach it to them again.
    Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
    - Citizen G'Kar
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    Yes I was Hal. Thanks for spelling it out for those who missed the painfully obvious.

    Certainly not that obvious, just show me where in this quote the word "crew credit and crew credit only" are written?

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    As I suggested a couple of years ago, "open credits" is the only way to solve the bulk of these silly problems. Just enter what you see as you see it on the screen.

    Don't try to make me look like a NFBSK idiot, I can do it myself and this is not the case here.

    Ummm we already have Open Credits for Cast and have had for several years now.

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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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    Ummm we already have Open Credits for Cast and have had for several years now.

    Skip you're not fast enough, I've already answer to Unicus 6 hours before your comment to explain where the confusion came for me. No need to add this kind of comment like you do usually, just take the time to read before posting a message.

    P.S : Don't see an attack here this isn't the case at all.
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