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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: Isn't there also a principle that when in doubt, we use the copyright notice? The notice, at least on the complete series set says "X-Files." But there is no doubt. The Rules clearly say: Quote: Use the title from the front cover. The title on the front cover is clearly readable without the '-'. The opening title of each episode is spelled without the '-' also. | | | Cor |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Exactly.
"X-Files" can go into the Original Title field. |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote: "X-Files" can go into the Original Title field. How do you reckon that? I really don't think so - the rule on "original title" is: "Use the title from the film's credits." And as as the previous poster said: Quoting Corne: Quote: The opening title of each episode is spelled without the '-' also. So I don't see how we could possibly arrive at putting 'The X-Files' into the "original title" field. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting dee1959jay:
Quote: "X-Files" can go into the Original Title field. How do you reckon that? I really don't think so - the rule on "original title" is: "Use the title from the film's credits." And as as the previous poster said:
Quoting Corne:
Quote: The opening title of each episode is spelled without the '-' also. So I don't see how we could possibly arrive at putting 'The X-Files' into the "original title" field. Not quite. The foreign films rules applies since this is a Netherlands release of an US show. Don't know if that would change anything, though. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote: Don't know if that would change anything, though. I'm fairly sure it doesn't. |
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Registered: December 13, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 334 |
| Posted: | | | | T!M and Karsten:
Apart from the matter of the original title you both also say X Files for the "normal" title then? |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Mallrat: Quote: T!M and Karsten:
Apart from the matter of the original title you both also say X Files for the "normal" title then? It does seem that way, yes. Had you asked me a few days ago, I'd have been perfectly happy with 'The X-Files', as that's what the show is commonly referred to (even by Fox themselves). But this community has a long-standing tendency to try to do things different from how the rest of the world does it... Anyway: if there's no hyphen visible on either the cover or the screen, then I'd have to say that the rules make it pretty hard to add one in - despite my own preference. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with T!M here. 'The X Files' as title, Original title blank. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: But this community has a long-standing tendency to try to do things different from how the rest of the world does it... No... Really ??? | | | Images from movies |
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Registered: December 13, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 334 |
| Posted: | | | | Well, I think it's been pretty much agreed upon that The X Files is the way to go then. (I'm glad I asked because without guidance I probably would have opted for the vast majority.) Just goes to show you, doesn't it? I'll start with changing season 2 NL (that profile needs other work anyway) and see how it goes. Cheers everyone for helping out. Steve |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,321 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: But this community has a long-standing tendency to try to do things different from how the rest of the world does it... Anyway: if there's no hyphen visible on either the cover or the screen, then I'd have to say that the rules make it pretty hard to add one in - despite my own preference. It's a pretty sad commentary on us and our rules when everyone agrees that it should be in the database as The X Files while at the same time everyone agrees that the correct "official" title is The X-Files. Given the rules we have, I can't argue against the decision made here. But I certainly won't allow it in my database! I've just updated the title lock for all my X-Files profiles. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here. Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Agreed on all counts... |
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Registered: December 13, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote: It's a pretty sad commentary on us and our rules when everyone agrees that it should be in the database as The X Files while at the same time everyone agrees that the correct "official" title is The X-Files.
Given the rules we have, I can't argue against the decision made here. But I certainly won't allow it in my database! I've just updated the title lock for all my X-Files profiles. Yes, it does seem a bit weird, doesn't it? It can't be a good thing if the rules lead to an answer that, although technically correct, most people feel "just isn't right", as may be the case here (although there are quite a few non-NL profiles that already use X Files as I stated in the OP). That can't always be prevented though I suppose, no rules are perfect. Anyway, I've made the first contributions to seasons 1 & 2, locality NL and pointed to this thread. I apologise to those of you who feel compelled to lock their profiles, but I can hardly pose the question and then ignore the results |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree. It's weird that Fox uses The X-Files as title everywhere, except on the DVD covers and in episodes' title credits. Unfortunately (but in most cases fortunately) the rules concerning the titles are clear. | | | Cor |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting dee1959jay:
Quote: "X-Files" can go into the Original Title field. How do you reckon that? I really don't think so - the rule on "original title" is: "Use the title from the film's credits." And as as the previous poster said:
Quoting Corne:
Quote: The opening title of each episode is spelled without the '-' also. So I don't see how we could possibly arrive at putting 'The X-Files' into the "original title" field. Sorry, I had forgotten about Corne's post. Of course you're totally right. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,029 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote: It's a pretty sad commentary on us and our rules when everyone agrees that it should be in the database as The X Files while at the same time everyone agrees that the correct "official" title is The X-Files. I completely agree. Quote: Given the rules we have, I can't argue against the decision made here. I could, but I won't. Hint: The circled X is a graphical gimmick. Quote: But I certainly won't allow it in my database! I've just updated the title lock for all my X-Files profiles. Unfortunately, that approach doesn't help if you don't own the DVDs yet and you do a search for the well-established title "X-Files" in the Add DVD by Title dialog. As I said in the J*A*G thread, locally you can do what you want and endlessly arguing over what should go into certain data fields just isn't worth the hassle, but the title field is a bit different, because you need it to find a profile in the first place. | | | Matthias |
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