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Entering him twice for the what is the same role with a different name variant would be wrong. I would prefer director of photography but would not vote against cinematographer.
Wrong based on what? The rules say to "Take Crew Credits from the film credits only; list names exactly as they are in the credits." I see no exception that says, "unless they are listed twice with a differetn name variant and a different role for the same job." 
We often find crew members credited twice exactly the same way once in the opening credits and again in the end credits. Do we list those people twice as well? Only if they are credited with different jobs or names. | | | | Hal |
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Entering him twice for the what is the same role with a different name variant would be wrong. I would prefer director of photography but would not vote against cinematographer.
Wrong based on what? The rules say to "Take Crew Credits from the film credits only; list names exactly as they are in the credits." I see no exception that says, "unless they are listed twice with a differetn name variant and a different role for the same job."
We often find crew members credited twice exactly the same way once in the opening credits and again in the end credits. Do we list those people twice as well?
Only if they are credited with different jobs or names. IMO director of photography and cinematographer are the same job. |
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Entering him twice for the what is the same role with a different name variant would be wrong. I would prefer director of photography but would not vote against cinematographer.
Wrong based on what? The rules say to "Take Crew Credits from the film credits only; list names exactly as they are in the credits." I see no exception that says, "unless they are listed twice with a differetn name variant and a different role for the same job."
We often find crew members credited twice exactly the same way once in the opening credits and again in the end credits. Do we list those people twice as well?
Only if they are credited with different jobs or names.
IMO director of photography and cinematographer are the same job. But that's just it. Your opinion doesn't really matter. They are listed on screen with two different job names. We enter the credits EXACTLY as they are listed. I fail to see how anyone can rationalize dropping either one of those credits. | | | | Hal |
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I'm not sure why we even have separate entries for this. According to Wikipedia and my textbook for my American Film History class, these are two names for the same job. We handle every other case like this through variants. Granted, they are apparently separated in the U.K., but in those cases, the DP doesn't sound like the sort of job we track. Wikipedia says that they are "generally equivalent", it doesn't say they are two names for the same job. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: October 6, 2008 | | Posts: 1,932 |
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But that's just it. Your opinion doesn't really matter. They are listed on screen with two different job names. We enter the credits EXACTLY as they are listed.
I fail to see how anyone can rationalize dropping either one of those credits. Agreed. |
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