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Quoting bentyman:
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concert with Green Day

I was there too. Great show 


Quoting bentyman:
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Why can't people provide more torough info?


I think it's more important to get a profile into the database than to have it complete at the first attempt. That way there is at least a profile available for download for those that doesn't feel like contributing or doesn't care about making manual profiles.

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Personally I am happy with any accurate, per rules update anyone makes... no matter the size. I know I personally will do large updates when I can/feel up to it. But I also will make small updates as I see them when I have little time available or just don't feel up to getting into something more major. For me personally it has nothing to do with any numbers or having my name on any profile.

I agree with this as well, but I don't think that is what bentyman was refering to.  I have seen the types of contributions he is talking about where someone will change a cast member, wait until the contribution is approved, change another cast member, wait until that contribution is approved, change another cast member, etc., etc..

Those get really frustrating.
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I didn't get that from Bentyman's post at all... Forget_The_Rest mentions what you are saying.But I see nothing from the OP that says that is what he is talking about... the way I read that first post he is pretty much saying the whole profile should be done before you contribute.. see his post again...

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Here in Norway I see sometimes that contributed titles are provided by users that seems to me that the most important thing for them are to be credited for their contribution. Latest example are Lakeview Terrace that I bought last week, but haven't had time to profile it yet. Today, after returning from a two day trip to Norways capitol (concert with Green Day) Lakeview Terrace showed up as a new entry. After it was downloaded, the ONLY info that was provided: Production Year&Country, Rating, Case Type,Regions and videoformat. Contribution notes on that title: Source, Blu-ray cover.

Why can't people provide more torough info? enter cast from credits, crew, studios, soundformat etc etc. I know it's "legal" to contribute new titles with lack of almost all information just to get it in the base and let others do all the work after, but in most cases I suspect that the users just want the credit. When I buy a title that's not in the base, I never contribute it untill I get all the info entered on that title, then I can say tomyself, I provided in my opinion a 100% contribution for all the other users that will buy that particular title. Of course I can miss something out, misspell rolenames etc, but that's easy to correct after for other users.. Well this was my little frustration
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I'm a supporter of partial contributions - but it well known that I, personally, do full audits on my titles.

I come from a "if it's worth doing, it's worth doing right" viewpoint; and to me, doing it right means doing everything in a profile that it's possible to do before I contribute.
That way - the next person to look at that profile only has to correct errors (I'm not arrogant enough to think I never make mistakes).

For example - I don't own a Blu-ray drive. So I sit down in front of the TV with a pad and pen and copy the cast/crew etc and then transfer it to Profiler. It's time consuming and annoying (not to mention aggravating my RSI) but if it means the data gets into the profile then I don't mind doing it.

Maybe if more people came from a 'do everything possible' viewpoint the screeners would have less work to do.

Personally, it would be really nice to find a profile that needs nothing doing to it except some personal tweaks. Hasn't happened yet though - because most people prefer to do things piecemeal. Maybe if more people thought about the bigger picture we'd have a better database.

I also realise that my view is very unpopular and the minority.
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Surprisingly not a thread about women drivers.
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Surprisingly not a thread about women drivers.

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I have seen the types of contributions he is talking about where someone will change a cast member, wait until the contribution is approved, change another cast member, wait until that contribution is approved, change another cast member, etc., etc..

Those get really frustrating.

Are those common name updates? The Name Variants plugin will flag profiles for you that contain names that you've changed using the plugin. This facilitates contributing the name changes. Since changes are done on a per name basis, they can come up over and over as one works through the names. Just mentioning in case this is what you are referring to.
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I didn't get that from Bentyman's post at all... Forget_The_Rest mentions what you are saying.But I see nothing from the OP that says that is what he is talking about... the way I read that first post he is pretty much saying the whole profile should be done before you contribute.. see his post again...

You are correct, it was Forget. 
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Surprisingly not a thread about women drivers.





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I resent that!  I am a very good driver! 
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I resent that!  I am a very good driver! 

Yes, I see your little black car parked very tastefully at the back wall. 
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I resent that!  I am a very good driver! 

I've heard of you! 
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Personally I am happy with any accurate, per rules update anyone makes... no matter the size. I know I personally will do large updates when I can/feel up to it. But I also will make small updates as I see them when I have little time available or just don't feel up to getting into something more major. For me personally it has nothing to do with any numbers or having my name on any profile.


I can relate to this reasoning. 


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Actually, I prefer if the initial contribution contains as little as possible as it will be accepted immediately without voting.

This is not the case. I recently had a new contribution rejected, so they don't automatically get accepted. There's still a screening process.

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This is not the case. I recently had a new contribution rejected, so they don't automatically get accepted. There's still a screening process.


I didn't mean that all contributions get accepted but there is no voting process. Meaning anything can get in, and I mean anything! The standards for acceptance are sometimes very low it seems...
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Personally I am happy with any accurate, per rules update anyone makes... no matter the size. I know I personally will do large updates when I can/feel up to it. But I also will make small updates as I see them when I have little time available or just don't feel up to getting into something more major. For me personally it has nothing to do with any numbers or having my name on any profile.


I can relate to this reasoning. 


Also agree to this. Any correct data is good data, even if some things are missing.
To be true: If we can share the job, why not sharing? This is a user build db, so the work hasn't to be done by one single person only. 
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