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But then my dear Forget we MUST list all of the Stunt people, why aren't they part of the Cast. The cast has a very specific section labelled CAST and the puppeteers are not a part of that list. How do you deciode who is in the cast then, according to you they can appear anywhere in the end credits and there is no way to discern them. Is one of the Accountants a cast member, by your definition or lack of one, they certainly could be. The Rule is both clear and decisive and a line has to be drawn, otherwise there is no definable cast and everybody is cast. As Ace pointed a bunch of "nameless" in terms of Roles, puppeteers are Cast, particularly when they are sparated from the REAL cast data....uh uh,

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But then my dear Forget we MUST list all of the Stunt people, why aren't they part of the Cast. The cast has a very specific section labelled CAST and the puppeteers are not a part of that list. How do you deciode who is in the cast then, according to you they can appear anywhere in the end credits and there is no way to discern them. Is one of the Accountants a cast member, by your definition or lack of one, they certainly could be. The Rule is both clear and decisive and a line has to be drawn, otherwise there is no definable cast and everybody is cast. As Ace pointed a bunch of "nameless" in terms of Roles, puppeteers are Cast, particularly when they are sparated from the REAL cast data....uh uh,

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At the same time, it is also clear about stage names. So if Queen Latifah sang the theme for a film & was credited there, solely using the info in the rules as worded, there's nothing stopping people from entering it as Queen//Latifah. This is of course crazy so people apply the same rule to both Cast and Crew despite it only appearing in the cast section and specifically mentioning "actor" in the wording.

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NO, Hal, you are incorrect, the rules define the Cast credits. "are listed together in a single section at the end of the film"

The puppeteers you refer to are neither listed together not are they in a single section of the credits. You also cannot interpret the data relative to Jadagrace berry, it's the data, man. You claim it's absurd, upon what basis, have you mystically acquired the same powers of divinity of some users, I believe this the actor's first appearance or very early in her career, but the data is what it is. The program does not recognize the lower case berry without use of Credited As, but that is what the data IS. I certainly don't pretend any superhuman abilities, only what the data is factually.

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This is the definition in the Rules of "Standard Credits".  It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Rule regarding puppeteers.

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This is the definition in the Rules of "Standard Credits".  It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Rule regarding puppeteers.

The section with the rules about puppeteers starts "In addition to the above, the following rules should be followed:" The part Skip cites appears in the section above. It seems fairly clear to me it applies to all cast credits.

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Sorry but the Rules say:

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For the purposes of this section we define "standard" film credits as those where all credited actors involved are listed together in a single section at the end of the film - defined here as the "end credits".

"Standard Credits" are defined as those cast that are listed together.

The Rule for puppeteers does not refer to "Standard Credits".

Ending credits (which is what are referred to in the Puppeteer section) on the other hand are those credits which appear at the end og the film as opposed to beginning or opening credits which appear at the beginning of the film.

The rule also says, "defined here as the "end credits"."  The definition given applies to both terms...'Standard Credits' and 'End Credits'.  If it didn't, there would be no need for that portion of the rule as we all know the difference between 'opening' and 'end' credits.