Quoting Woola:

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but we follow the menus, and like I said if the menus say outtakes, they are outtakes, if the menus say deleted scenes then thy are deleted scenes.

Have you read what myself and others have said, at all? Have you even checked the actual contribution rules? I even provided a link for you... So where do you get this "we follow the menus"? Where do the rules say that? It's baffling that while you've given all the right arguments you still arrive at the wrong answer...

As I pointed out, the rules do not say that whatever's listed on the cover or in the DVD menu trump actual content - because it doesn't. Instead the rules on features describe various kinds of features in detail, and subsequently tell us what boxes to check for them. So per the rules, we look at the content, and then turn to the rules to see which checkbox to tick for it. Nowhere does it say, as you claim, that "we follow the menus" instead.

Quoting Forget_the_Rest:

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He's following the data that is the actual video information. If the menu showed French subtitles only but in actuality they were English, you'd enter English. This is no different IMHO.

Win.

So "terminated scenes" shouldn't be listed?

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Let me explain my reasoning.  More often than not, when I audit a title, it is right after I have watched whatever feature was on the disc.  At that point, I do cast and crew from the feature and special features from the disc menu.  I don't ever, and I do mean ever, watch all the special features to make sure they are what the disc menu says they are.  I simply go by what it says.  Not saying you can't, just that I don't.

I'm with you Martian in that I don't watch many special features. I trust that what they are labeled is what they are. And I would contribute them as such...but, if someone pointed out that there was an error in labeling and something called Deleted Scenes was actually say a Gallery of photos, I'd submit Gallery. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

I believe that as long as it's mentioned in the contribution notes that there is an error in the menus and "such and such" is actually "blah blah", then there should be no problem. I also see no problem in people taking the labels at face value either though unless an error is discovered like in the OP's example.

So in a nutshell, if someone is actually watching the special features, enter what they actually are. If they aren't, contribute what is labeled in the Special Features menu, but be sure to check the contribution notes to be sure someone hasn't pointed out a rare but possible error in labeling.

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Let me explain my reasoning.

I understand. And you're right: we can all do whatever we want. Some people don't like to deal with crew, others apparently don't like to check on the features. All perfectly fine. Personally I tend to do a lot of "full audits" where I check every aspect of the disc, but hey: that's just me. So indeed, nobody HAS to watch the special features to determine what they really are. I'm just saying that if someone else comes along who HAS watched the actual special features and has found such a case of a mislabeled feature, then that would make for a valid correction per the rules - not to mention a very welcome one.

Quoting Vittra:

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So in a nutshell, if someone is actually watching the special features, enter what they actually are. If they aren't, contribute what is labeled in the Special Features menu, but be sure to check the contribution notes to be sure someone hasn't pointed out a rare but possible error in labeling.

Indeed. The same applies to virtually every other field: if someone's taken the audio tracks from the cover and hasn't bothered to look at what's actually on the disc, someone else who DID check what's actually there can come along and fix any mistakes. You've basically described the whole contribution system: one person contributes whatever he wants to contribute, and someone else can come along to complete the data or correct any mistakes.

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Footage, generally mistakes, captured during filming, generally humorous. Occasionally, outtakes are scripted (e.g. animated outtakes).

Since that is the verbiage of the rule for Outtakes/Bloopers and from the description given in the OP, I'd agree on his interpretation that these are Deleted Scenes rather than Outtakes/Blooper. From the additional information posted by cmaeditor, I can see where the term Outtake might be used, however the film industry does not use DVDProfiler rules definitions when creating their menus. As always, YMMV.

Quoting Woola:

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OMG, I know cmae, but we follow the menus, and like I said if the menus say outtakes, they are outtakes, if the menus say deleted scenes then thy are deleted scenes. NOTHING else is relevant.

According to bigdaddy they are called Outtakes...sobe it.

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Sorry to disagree but, when the menu call bloopers Gag reel we don't put them in other features as Gag Reel.  We check Outakes/Bloopers.  So we don't always go with exactly what the menu calls them.

Disc Features is profiling content not DVD menu labels.

Quoting Dr. Killpatient:

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If it walks like a duck...

... then it is a witch - burn it!