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what is the best way to change UPC? --for contribution.. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I won't say that, Pro, but this makes me wish that most of my collection was in storage; because at the very least I would be pulling my copies of such films and verifying my OWNED data against the supposedly correct data. Based upon the experiment i ran 18 months ago or so, there is absolutely no way that i would presume to be able to change the data for anything other than what I own. The ONLY possible exception that comes to mind would be if for example, I checked and discovered that the Disc ID for my copy was also used somewhere else. But beyond that....NO WAY.
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| | Registered: February 23, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,580 |
| | Posted: | | | | A little bit off topic perhaps, but how does one calculate the checksum of a UPC? Could be useful for those rare ocassions when a UPC isn't clearly legible (I'm thinking especially of pre-release submissions where I have a scan of the back cover that isn't very legible.) | | | Blu-ray collection
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | If the upc is wrong,you can still add it by disc ID. If it hasn't already been used elsewhere of course... | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | How to calculate UPC-A check digits To calculate a UPC-A check digit do the following: 1. Designate the right most of the 11 characters as odd. 2. Sum all of the characters in the odd positions and multiply the result by three. 3. Sum all of the characters in the even positions. 4. Add the even and odd totals from steps 2 and 3. 5. Figure out what the smallest number which, when added to the result from step 4, will result in a multiple of 10. This is the checksum character. Example: Number: 0 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Position: O E O E O E O E O E O Sum of odd positions: 0 + 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 + 9 = 25 Odd sum times three: 25 * 3 = 75 Sum of even Positions: 0 + 2 + 4 + 6 + 8 = 20 Sum of even and odd: 20 + 75 = 95 Smallest number to have a multiple of 10: 5 Checksum character = 5 UPC-A bar code = 001234567895 or go to this site | | | | Last edited: by CharlieM |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
How to calculate UPC-A check digits
To calculate a UPC-A check digit do the following:
1. Designate the right most of the 11 characters as odd.
2. Sum all of the characters in the odd positions and multiply the result by three.
3. Sum all of the characters in the even positions.
4. Add the even and odd totals from steps 2 and 3.
5. Figure out what the smallest number which, when added to the result from step 4, will result in a multiple of 10. This is the checksum character.
Example:
Number: 0 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Position: O E O E O E O E O E O
Sum of odd positions: 0 + 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 + 9 = 25
Odd sum times three: 25 * 3 = 75
Sum of even Positions: 0 + 2 + 4 + 6 + 8 = 20
Sum of even and odd: 20 + 75 = 95
Smallest number to have a multiple of 10: 5
Checksum character = 5
UPC-A bar code = 001234567895
UPC-A checkdigits may also be calculated using a spreadsheet. Here is an Excel spreadsheet to download(self-extracting PKZip file) that will calculate UPC-A checkdigits.
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| | Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote:
Based upon the experiment i ran 18 months ago or so, there is absolutely no way that i would presume to be able to change the data for anything other than what I own. http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=396600  |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Merrik: Quote:
Why stop the spread of good data just to spite the submittor? That makes absolutely no sense. Because he doesn't own the disc in all the region he contribute for, so no 100% garantee that it is a correct submission. But I would not vote "no" for a reason like that since you can do it (ridiculous decision from Ken, just like voting on something you don't own), but I would certainly not vote "yes" so it's a good use of the "neutral" vote for me. |
| | Registered: February 23, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,580 |
| | | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote:
Quoting Merrik:
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Why stop the spread of good data just to spite the submittor? That makes absolutely no sense.
Because he doesn't own the disc in all the region he contribute for, so no 100% garantee that it is a correct submission. But I would not vote "no" for a reason like that since you can do it (ridiculous decision from Ken, just like voting on something you don't own), but I would certainly not vote "yes" so it's a good use of the "neutral" vote for me. So the rest of Merrik's post of: Quote:
Or you could double check the data to make sure it's correct (like everyone should be doing with all their votes anyway...) and if it is... vote YES on it. ..is invalid? You would vote Neutral without even checking the data? Believe me, I am 100% of the camp that you should only be able to vote on the titles you own, but if someone who doesn't own the title does the work for me, I will verify and vote yes. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. | | | | Last edited: by Alien Redrum |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Taro: Quote:
Thanks for your clear explanation, CharlieM. I learned something new today. Instant greeny for you That makes it a good day, Taro.  Happy New Year. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
Quoting AESP_pres:
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Quoting Merrik:
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Why stop the spread of good data just to spite the submittor? That makes absolutely no sense.
Because he doesn't own the disc in all the region he contribute for, so no 100% garantee that it is a correct submission. But I would not vote "no" for a reason like that since you can do it (ridiculous decision from Ken, just like voting on something you don't own), but I would certainly not vote "yes" so it's a good use of the "neutral" vote for me.
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Or you could double check the data to make sure it's correct (like everyone should be doing with all their votes anyway...) and if it is... vote YES on it.
..is invalid? You would vote Neutral without even checking the data?
Believe me, I am 100% of the camp that you should only be able to vote on the titles you own, but if someone who doesn't own the title does the work for me, I will verify and vote yes. In this case we have someone who is making changes based on the coverscans for each profile. All other US profiles list this film as having a 'PG' rating, but this copy (which sure looks like a boot to me) shows 'G', so Terry is changing it to 'G'. The version that I own lists the run time as 109m, with notes saying that the 'real' run time is 108m59s. But Terry is changing it to 110m and listing the case as his source. I checked my copy, PowerDVD reports 108m59s, I voted NO. Just after I voted I saw this thread about a different profile of the same film from the same user. I then added all of the R1 profiles to my 'ordered' list. Terry is making changes to five of them. The only one I have voted on is the one that I own a copy of, but based on the accuracy of the changes to that one, if I own any of the others I would check them carefully. pdf | | | Paul Francis
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| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pdf256: Quote:
In this case we have someone who is making changes based on the coverscans for each profile. All other US profiles list this film as having a 'PG' rating, but this copy (which sure looks like a boot to me) shows 'G', so Terry is changing it to 'G'.
The version that I own lists the run time as 109m, with notes saying that the 'real' run time is 108m59s. But Terry is changing it to 110m and listing the case as his source. I checked my copy, PowerDVD reports 108m59s, I voted NO.
Just after I voted I saw this thread about a different profile of the same film from the same user. I then added all of the R1 profiles to my 'ordered' list. Terry is making changes to five of them. The only one I have voted on is the one that I own a copy of, but based on the accuracy of the changes to that one, if I own any of the others I would check them carefully.
pdf Again, let me stress that I firmly believe that unless one owns the title, they cannot vote or make changes on said title. Now, that said, since that rule is probably never going to change, it's going to happen. Since it's going to happen anyway, the best way to handle it is exactly as you did, pdf, by checking the data and voting appropriately. Data should be checked regardless of who is submitting it (although I freely admit there are people that I feel I can trust and I don't have to double check their data by going to the disc). But, yeah, at the end of the day I don't support those who don't own the disc submitting data/changes for it. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
..is invalid? You would vote Neutral without even checking the data?
The user who have submitted the profile haven't done his/her work, why would I do it for him? Too many thing can be different from one region released from another to make those contributions usefull... PS : Terry it isn't against your contribution, but this practice in general who fill the database with wrong data. | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote:
Quoting Alien Redrum:
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..is invalid? You would vote Neutral without even checking the data?
The user who have submitted the profile haven't done his/her work, why would I do it for him? Too many thing can be different from one region released from another to make those contributions usefull... I think my point was not clear. Until this thread, you didn't know, and this particular thing no doubt happens all the time, so the data should always be checked. Maybe that makes more sense. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's easy to know by checking the submitter online collection. If the title isn't in the owned page, he/she doesn't have the disk in his/her hand to check. If his/her collection isn't online I don't trust the contribution at all. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,494 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pdf 256: Quote:
Believe me, I am 100% of the camp that you should only be able to vote on the titles you own, but if someone who doesn't own the title does the work for me, I will verify and vote yes. In this case we have someone who is making changes based on the cover scans for each profile. All other US profiles list this film as having a 'PG' rating, but this copy (which sure looks like a boot to me) shows 'G', so Terry is changing it to 'G'. The version that I own lists the run time as 109m, with notes saying that the 'real' run time is 108m59s. But Terry is changing it to 110m and listing the case as his source. I checked my copy, PowerDVD reports 108m59s, I voted NO. Just after I voted I saw this thread about a different profile of the same film from the same user. I then added all of the R1 profiles to my 'ordered' list. Terry is making changes to five of them. The only one I have voted on is the one that I own a copy of, but based on the accuracy of the changes to that one, if I own any of the others I would check them carefully. pdf PDF I pulled that contribution within minutes of your no vote and for good reason.. The five in the data base had three run times 109 110 and 111 .. I went with the run time on the box.., because I only had the disc in wish list I went with the middle run time you challenged it.. I accepted it and pulled it .. The G rating only was as accordance to the box , and all others had PG .. I pulled that as well.. Now for the source of this disc it may very well be a Boot as I think it has a multitude of subtitles including Thai .. So along with the bad UPC and a questionable front and rear scan .. I will be submitting this UPC for removal.. Why have 5 titles at once? Why not? first of all it is allowed to contribute and vote on even if you don't have the dvd on hand and there is one thing I can't stand and that is to see a multitude of same titles all with different locations and upc and disc ID's and for all of them to be different..  If 4 of the titles have the same cast and crew and they have been contributed by our faithful and dutiful members here.., to find one title that has NO (i.e. cast and crew) contribution history or owners,, and has little to no information you'd think you would at least be happy that someone is looking out for that title.. and Keep in mind IF you Don't Have that Title and corresponding UPC or disc ID in your own data base that title would NEVER come up on your screen ,.. Unless of course you do have it.. and if you do, what are you going to do about the contribution notes..? Either challenge them or accept them.. and I am not like a lot of others here who get negative votes and just sit on that title for days and days and days until it gets flagged and declined.. I look after that contribution immediatley by correcting or pulling said title . | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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