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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Just another example of why the "Original Title" rule needs to be fixed.
It's definitely "Seven" in my local db. What it is... is that it goes to show you that no rule will work for every single title. I mean I know it wasn't all that long ago (it was here at Invelos) we here on the forum convinced Ken to make the rules change to get the original title to match the credits. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 762 |
| | Posted: | | | | My thanks to Terry "Widescreenforever" for pulling the contribution. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheDarkKnight: Quote:
My thanks to Terry "Widescreenforever" for pulling the contribution. Thanks Terry!  | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote:
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Just another example of why the "Original Title" rule needs to be fixed.
It's definitely "Seven" in my local db.
 So the Rule should be written based upon what you do in your local. I am missing something here.
Skip I don't believe that's what I said. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,494 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
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Just another example of why the "Original Title" rule needs to be fixed.
It's definitely "Seven" in my local db.
What it is... is that it goes to show you that no rule will work for every single title. I mean I know it wasn't all that long ago (it was here at Invelos) we here on the forum convinced Ken to make the rules change to get the original title to match the credits. I did pull the contribution but still can't for the life of me see this title any different than my Quest for Fire which had the Original title right there on the case, the On screen and the rear credit Box.. yet it was deemed to be foreign film, .so on screen credits didn't matter ., and then Here we have on screen credits that does matter-- never mind the disc ID / credit box, and original screenplay as well as previous earlier editions and as well advertising posters etc., all had the name Seven .. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't know a film by the name of Quest for fire. So I can't tell you what the situation for that is. But it seems to me the difference is that one was a foreign film (which has a different rule) and one is NOT a foreign film. so we go by the main Original title rule. Which is perfectly clear. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
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Just another example of why the "Original Title" rule needs to be fixed.
It's definitely "Seven" in my local db.
So the Rule should be written based upon what you do in your local. I am missing something here.
Skip
I don't believe that's what I said. That's the way it reads to me, hal. Particulalyl with the additional sentence in bold. My immediate reaction was who cares what is in your local and what relevance does that have to the rules. The answer to the question was as I typed my response. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 762 |
| | Posted: | | | | Terry, "Quest for Fire" is different because it is a foreign film. I also think that "Seven" is the original title of the movie, but the rules tell us different and we have to follow them for the online database to avoid total chaos. That's the good thing about being able to modify it locally to our liking. I think pulling the contribution was the right thing to do. |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Seven is also a foreign film.  |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | At least 98%, possibly 99% of the films in my DVD collection are "foreign" to me - surely where I live doesn't determine what I should enter as original title?!
Whatever's in the credits, that's the original title for DVD Profiler purposes. Anything else can always be stored locally. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote:
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Just another example of why the "Original Title" rule needs to be fixed.
It's definitely "Seven" in my local db.
So the Rule should be written based upon what you do in your local. I am missing something here.
Skip
I don't believe that's what I said.
That's the way it reads to me, hal. Particulalyl with the additional sentence in bold. My immediate reaction was who cares what is in your local and what relevance does that have to the rules. The answer to the question was as I typed my response.
Skip Skip, sometimes you just look for trouble. I made two completely independent statements. The second was informational only. I said nothing to tie the new rule with what I do locally. You should reign in your imagination. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
surely where I live doesn't determine what I should enter as original title?! No, but "Country of Origin" versus "Purchase Locality" determines whether something is foreign or not - at least for the Online DB. Quoting T!M: Quote:
Whatever's in the credits I've seen localized titles in the opening credits (e.g. Disney's children movies) but that does not make it the original title of the movie. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
At least 98%, possibly 99% of the films in my DVD collection are "foreign" to me - surely where I live doesn't determine what I should enter as original title?!
Whatever's in the credits, that's the original title for DVD Profiler purposes. Anything else can always be stored locally. Oddly enough, I agree with T!M on this point. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,494 |
| | Posted: | | | | wasn't there some crazy title last year ( skip help me out here) that was a collection of numebrs and letetrs and we all laughed at it saying there is no way that could be the title of the .. something like R$N4 ... or something....
anyway if I Remember we determined the actual title was (not a stylized lettering title but )the actual title in the credit block... | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,917 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think we need a new field in the online database called "Search Title" that contains the title as spoken. For this movie, it would be "seven". That way, if they searched for "Seven" or "Se7en", it'll get returned. You would even be able to search for "batteries not included" and get a HIT without having to do a substring search. (OMG)  |
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