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Usage of the new Group Start and Group End Dividers
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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IMO, Using a divider is inventing data that is not there (The divider itself). Repeating the role would be just putting this rule into effect...

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    *  If an actor is credited by name but does not have an associated role, you may use the film itself, or another source to identify the role. However, mass copy from a third party commercial database which violates their stated usage license is not allowed. In each case, list Actor’s names and roles (when given) exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited.


It would be using what I put in bold.... as I would be taking the role from the credits of the film itself. and supplying it.

So I for one would vote no to a divider used in such an occasions as the rules stands now.
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IMO, Using a divider is inventing data that is not there (The divider itself). Repeating the role would be just putting this rule into effect...

Again, this...
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Well the rules were made before the dividers existed, and I have a bad feeling to put gramatically wrong data into profiler, a role in plural for a singular actor, and I also have a bad feeling to change the role from plural to singular, just cause to not use the new divider feature.

I think we need Kens opinion on this.

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As I said... I would vote no to this As long as the rules are as they are. If Ken wanted it differently I would of course go for whatever he chose.

But on a personal opinion... I am more against putting a divider into the list when there is no divider in the credits then I am changing plural to singular. We have been changing plural to singular in these cases as long as I can remember. So I am more comfortable with that.
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I agree we did that all the time, and I think that is also a reason that ken provided us with dividers now

So we do not need to do that change anymore.

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I understand that... but I still do believe we should not create dividers where there is none in the credits. I believe that the goal is to get as close to the credits as possible. And adding data that doesn't exist... such as these dividers... goes against that goal. But as I said... that is my opinion on the matter... and I am more then happy to go by anything Ken decides on the matter.
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IMHO, the only time we should use a "Group Divider" is when a "Group Divider" appears in the actual film credits.
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I guess I misunderstood the data in your first example DarklyNoon. I thought the movie credits had a group header.

In my opinion, if there is no group header in the credits, then no divider is to be used. In T!M example, I don't see any group header.

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IMHO, the only time we should use a "Group Divider" is when a "Group Divider" appears in the actual film credits.


I agree.
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okidoki, the majority agrees to not use the dividers in such cases, so I won't use em

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As I said... I would vote no to this As long as the rules are as they are.

There's a contribution pending for me right now where the credits are exactly like I've indicated (the film is 'Mermaids') and where someone is trying to add dividers. I'll be voting against that now.
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Well, it is exactly as I said, each cast member has Zombie written after him,
But that is what the group dividers are invented for I thought, so does the MArtian , Addicted and reybr, you think different HAL, which is no problem

I will go checkout the discussion in the Beta forum now :D

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Donnie

Wait...maybe I misunderstood.  We still have to enter them 'as credited'.  If the end credits read:

John Smith  Zombie
Jay Sanders  Zombie
Ralph Jones  Zombie

You have to enter them that way.

Group dividers are to be used for:

Zombies

John Smith
Jay Sanders
Ralph Jones
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Yeah Martian... More then one of us misunderstood the first post.
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Yeah Martian... More then one of us misunderstood the first post.

Yea, I didn't read the whole thread before I replied.    Needless to say, I agree with you and T!M and Hal an Forget and reybr on this.
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so we all agree now
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As I said... I would vote no to this As long as the rules are as they are.

There's a contribution pending for me right now where the credits are exactly like I've indicated (the film is 'Mermaids') and where someone is trying to add dividers. I'll be voting against that now.


It's a shame that you want to get this to the forums without at least pm me first or give me the chance to react privately. I didn't expect that from you, but c'est la vie.

I added the dividers because three actors are credited together as New Year's Partyers and seven actors are credited together as Kennedy Mourners. They each have no separate crediting, so I don't see the problem? There's certainly no rule against it.
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