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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ok, so I got a reply back and apparently we've been doing this wrong from the jump? Reply: It was declined because the film on the disk has a rating and that rating is shown on the cover. There is a rating shown on the cover, so that is the rating that you should go by. "Use the rating shown on the DVD Cover." You would only use something about there being a non rated film when there is no rating on the cover. Wedding Crashers has two versions (rated and unrated) and we go with NR (and no rating details). I know there a ton of others, but that's the one that came to mind. BTW, here is the back cover:  | | | | Last edited: by The Movieman |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I just looked at that page in the rules...
http://www.invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=filmdetails
And as it is highlighted in yellow... that is one of the several rules that was just recently changed. I somehow missed that change myself. Not sure I agree... but it is what it is. Ah, ok. Yeah, that is lame. Thanks. Edit: So, does this mean all those others (like Wedding Crashers) will have to be changed? | | | | Last edited: by The Movieman |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | that is how it sounds to me... if it has a rated version.... then you need to use the info of the rated version.
I disagree with this personally... but if that is what they want... that is what has to be in the online anyway. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Guess so. I won't be contributing it, but good luck.  Edited to say, with this new rule, a check mark in the features for an unrated version would be useful in this case (only when there is also a rated version). For now, I guess it's back to using tags. | | | | Last edited: by The Movieman |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
I got a profile declined but there is no reason for it. My highlight of the day was one very simple name correction with notes saying essentially "changing X to Y - as credited". Nine "yes"-votes" with two users even noting "thanks, good catch" and "Good find! Thanks", no "no"-votes at all, and it somehow it was declined.  Oh well, I gather that I must have used up my "Lotto luck"?  I've submitted the same change again... |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting TheMovieman:
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I got a profile declined but there is no reason for it.
My highlight of the day was one very simple name correction with notes saying essentially "changing X to Y - as credited". Nine "yes"-votes" with two users even noting "thanks, good catch" and "Good find! Thanks", no "no"-votes at all, and it somehow it was declined.
Oh well, I gather that I must have used up my "Lotto luck"? I've submitted the same change again... My fun-find of the month: At least two profiles where the changes got accepted and released, but the data didn't make it into the database (Since the release was several months ago, it hardly can be a browser cache problem). One question for a better understanding to the original problem: How can a DVD that has an unrated version get an "R"?? By definition, if there is an unrated version, the whole DVD is supposed to get an "NR", or am I seeing something wrong here? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I just looked at that page in the rules...
http://www.invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=filmdetails
And as it is highlighted in yellow... that is one of the several rules that was just recently changed. I somehow missed that change myself. Not sure I agree... but it is what it is. I missed it as well. I don't like it as I think it will look odd to have an 'Unrated Extended Edition' with an 'R' rating but, as Pete said, it is what it is. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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I just looked at that page in the rules...
http://www.invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=filmdetails
And as it is highlighted in yellow... that is one of the several rules that was just recently changed. I somehow missed that change myself. Not sure I agree... but it is what it is.
I missed it as well. I don't like it as I think it will look odd to have an 'Unrated Extended Edition' with an 'R' rating but, as Pete said, it is what it is. I think most missed it or else we would've seen an onslaught of submissions changing all the effected (or is it affected?) profiles... | | | | Last edited: by The Movieman |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Newly clarified. Here's the latest:
Use the Rating shown on the DVD cover. When there is no rating indicated or no rated version of the film on the disc, use the NR rating.
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Case says Rated R but disc has both a rated and unrated version = R
Case says "Unrated Extended Super Gross-out Version Too Extreme For Theaters", disc has both rated and unrated version = Unrated. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative | | | | Last edited: by Ken Cole |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Edit: Misread | | | | Last edited: by Ardos |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
Newly clarified. Here's the latest:
Use the Rating shown on the DVD cover. When there is no rating indicated or no rated version of the film on the disc, use the NR rating.
So:
Case says Rated R but disc has both a rated and unrated version = R
Case says "Unrated Extended Super Gross-out Version Too Extreme For Theaters", disc has both rated and unrated version = Unrated. What about when the disc has both an R rated and an Unrated... and the case has both info on the back Showing both ratings? I have seen these cases before. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | See what I circled in red... both ratings on the box.  | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | In my case, the front of Live Wire says "R-Rated and Unrated Versions". Does that count or does it have to say Unrated Edition? And to the image posted above, it has that as well on the back cover (on the first post of this page). So, I guess I'm still confused... | | | | Last edited: by The Movieman |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Is one rating considered higher than the other when it comes to purchasing the DVD?
If so, surely the higher one should be used. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is part of the problem to some people R would be the higher rating since it is an official rating... while to others the not rated would be the higher since it includes more and worse stuff then the R Rated.
I personally feel the not rated/unrated would take precedence. | | | | Pete |
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