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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
While I wouldn't use it, I see no reason to keep it out of the main database. The problem is that this seems to be stance of most "yes"-voters: would't use it locally, but wouldn't vote against it either. In the end, that means we end up with data in the database that most people don't want ("most" being both the people that voted no, plus those that voted yes but have indicated that they wouldn't want it in their local database). Wouldn't it be nice if the online database somehow managed to reflect the wishes of the majority of the users? I'm with Staid S Barr in that "widescreen" is the norm nowadays (no more "A Widescreen Presentation" banners on Blu-ray, I should think), I don't see how a comment about the video format refers to any kind of "Collection" or a "Special Version", and there are no other versions to distinguish from either... All in all, this seems entirely useless to me. |
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| Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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While I wouldn't use it, I see no reason to keep it out of the main database.
The problem is that this seems to be stance of most "yes"-voters: would't use it locally, but wouldn't vote against it either. In the end, that means we end up with data in the database that most people don't want ("most" being both the people that voted no, plus those that voted yes but have indicated that they wouldn't want it in their local database). Wouldn't it be nice if the online database somehow managed to reflect the wishes of the majority of the users?
I'm with Staid S Barr in that "widescreen" is the norm nowadays (no more "A Widescreen Presentation" banners on Blu-ray, I should think), I don't see how a comment about the video format refers to any kind of "Collection" or a "Special Version", and there are no other versions to distinguish from either... All in all, this seems entirely useless to me. I agree. So I think the right way now is to get a rule change... | | | | Cor |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not common with these "A Widescreen Presentation", but this seems to be more like those Editions that show not a special version, but a type of series, like e.g. "The criterion collection". |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
I agree. So I think the right way now is to get a rule change... But what to? Widescreen may be the norm, but pan & scan DVDs are still getting released. So I don't think we can ban "Widescreen" from the edition field outright. |
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| Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
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I agree. So I think the right way now is to get a rule change...
But what to? Widescreen may be the norm, but pan & scan DVDs are still getting released. So I don't think we can ban "Widescreen" from the edition field outright. Why not the other way around, Pan & Scan in the edition field? | | | | Cor |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | As it is now it is right for both Widescreen and Full Framed/PAn and Scan (whatever is on the cover). I personally agree with the way it is now... but that is me. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
As it is now it is right for both Widescreen and Full Framed/PAn and Scan (whatever is on the cover). I personally agree with the way it is now... but that is me. I agree. Although widescreen is definitely the dominant format, I see no reason to not allow it into the database. I personally think the wording of the edition rule is often not followed as quite often only one version is initially released per locality yet the edition is entered anyway. - This is generally speaking, not purely in relation to widescreen. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well that could be because as the Martian said above... the Edition field has not one... but 3 purposes...
- Distinguishing between DVDs
- Indicating special versions
- Indicating collections | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,879 |
| | Posted: | | | | I seem to fall pretty much in line with the rest of you - wouldn't put it there myself, wouldn't vote against it being added. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
-- Thorin Oakenshield |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would never add it myself, but I guess it is ok within the rules  Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
- Distinguishing between DVDs
- Indicating special versions
- Indicating collections As far as I'm concerned, the extremely basic comment that the DVD contains "A Widescreen Presentation" of the film is none of those. There are no other editions to disthinguish from, it's certainly no "special version", and I don't see any indication of any kind of "Collection" either. Seriously: if this is an edition, then how are we going to stop pretty much every single tagline seen on the front cover from ending up in the "Edition" field? Where's the difference, honestly? | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,749 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with T!M on this one. | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
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| Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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- Distinguishing between DVDs
- Indicating special versions
- Indicating collections
As far as I'm concerned, the extremely basic comment that the DVD contains "A Widescreen Presentation" of the film is none of those. There are no other editions to disthinguish from, it's certainly no "special version", and I don't see any indication of any kind of "Collection" either.
Seriously: if this is an edition, then how are we going to stop pretty much every single tagline seen on the front cover from ending up in the "Edition" field? Where's the difference, honestly? Completely true. | | | | Cor |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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- Distinguishing between DVDs
- Indicating special versions
- Indicating collections
As far as I'm concerned, the extremely basic comment that the DVD contains "A Widescreen Presentation" of the film is none of those. There are no other editions to disthinguish from, it's certainly no "special version", and I don't see any indication of any kind of "Collection" either.
Seriously: if this is an edition, then how are we going to stop pretty much every single tagline seen on the front cover from ending up in the "Edition" field? Where's the difference, honestly? Bingo!! Needless to say I agree with Tim on this one. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I am not fighting for this particular case... As most I wouldn't add this one myself... but don't believe I could vote no to it.
What I would fight against is the idea of changing the rule as I believe the rule is correct for the majority of cases. | | | | Pete |
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