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2012, year of freedom for Florence Cassez ? (Locked)
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Don't feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for the people of France. When her true colors rear up in the future, I hope your are just as quick to post it here. Money can buy you freedom in Mexico.
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Quoting Lord Of The Sith:
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Nice to see the rules are being evenly enforced as always.

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Please show me where in the Forum guidelines judicial cases are forbidden.
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Quoting surfeur51:
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Quoting Lord Of The Sith:
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Nice to see the rules are being evenly enforced as always.

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Discuss anything and everything, within the bounds of the forum guidelines.

Please show me where in the Forum guidelines judicial cases are forbidden.

It isn't specifically forbidden, but judicial cases are based on laws which are created by politicians so, it could be considered political.  In addition, in your own words, "In this particular case, Florence's trial had political implications between Mexico and France, and even inside Mexico."  While you weren't interested in speaking about those implications, they do invite political discussion...which is forbidden.

Add to that your insulting and belittling comments aimed at the 'users who tried to censor this thread', and I think Lord Of The Sith has a valid point...especially considering the thread that was locked in the contribution forum.
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...but judicial cases are based on laws which are created by politicians so, it could be considered political.

There are laws about DVDs (copyright for example), movies, and internet (download illegal content for DVDs). Those laws were made by politicians. Are DVD discussions also forbidden ?

Sorry, but I have to consider you among users who try to censor this thread. Please what is your motivation to do that? If it is just to try to derail the thread, you are just doing what you reproached me in other circumstances. Why not speak about the subject of the thread, or say nothing if it doesn't interest you?
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It is borderline political, and people don't like political threads because it doesn't take long for it to turn ugly.
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Quoting surfeur51:
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Quoting Lord Of The Sith:
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Nice to see the rules are being evenly enforced as always.

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Discuss anything and everything, within the bounds of the forum guidelines.

Please show me where in the Forum guidelines judicial cases are forbidden.

In the Forum Guidelines, it says "religious and political discussions specifically are not allowed in any of our forums."

Are "judicial cases" political? Yes. Judicial politics is a branch of political science:

Yale University, "Comparative Judicial Poiitics"
Princeton University, "The Greatest Hits of Judicial Politics"
London Review of Books, "Judicial Politics"
Oxford University, "Exploring Judicial Politics"
The University of Chicago Press Books, Books in Political Science: Judicial Politics
Barnard College at Columbia University, Courses in Judicial Politics

But is the Florence Cassez case political?

RFI article referring to "political row' and "playing politics" in regards to the case.
The International Spoil: The French Political Spoil: Florence Cassez
YouTube: Florence Cassez: Political hostage in Mexico
"Supreme Court to Hear Frenchwoman Florence Cassez Appeal" refers to Florence Cassez as a "political hostage".

Are political discussion disallowed? YES
Are judicial cases political? YES
Is the Florence Cassez case political? YES

And the reason that political and religious discussions are disallowed is because there is no answer. This tends to result in conflict. And that has certainly been true in this thread.
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It is borderline political...

Everything in life is borderline political since there are laws about everything we do...

I'll not discuss anymore about that. Judicial cases are NOT mentioned in forum guidedlines. If Ken wants to add them, he can, and in this case I shall never more say here that I hope see an innocent be freed by justice.
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There are laws about DVDs (copyright for example), movies, and internet (download illegal content for DVDs).

Someone put me on his block list and report me because of my old signature condemning copyright piracy... For me he is an idiot and a prick as he did show in his whining in jully 2011 thread about the rental exclusive where nobody agreed with him, but that shows that everybody can see politic everywhere (wich is an evidence as politics run our life whatever we like it or not).
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And the reason that political and religious discussions are disallowed is because there is no answer.

In this case there was an answer from the Court. The answer was : yes, she must be freed. That proves that it is nor political nor religious. 
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Quoting surfeur51:
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And the reason that political and religious discussions are disallowed is because there is no answer.

In this case there was an answer from the Court. The answer was : yes, she must be freed. That proves that it is nor political nor religious. 

I'm referring to an answer among Invelos forum users. There will never be agreement among users here about this case since it is political. For example, you see the court's decision as proof that this isn't political whereas others see the court's decision as politically corrupt. No reconciliation of your belief and theirs is possible.
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Yea, never mind.  Deaf ears and all.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Deaf ears and all

No, really, you should not think you have deaf ears... 
You should just read and not interpret...
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For example, you see the court's decision as proof that this isn't political whereas others see the court's decision as politically corrupt. No reconciliation of your belief and theirs is possible.

As I wrote, the proceedings of the Court were public and broadcast live on television. I personnaly followed all the proceedings. There were discussions about technical points, factual points, and each judge explained his position very precisely. This was not at all a political discussion, and if other users who also followed those proceedings have another opinion, I would be happy to hear their arguments.

On another hand, you seem to consider that when there is no answer, the discussion should not exist. What about Contribution Rules Forum threads where 95% have no answer, just the ascertainment that users cannot find a common interpretation for the points of the rules that are discussed. But, after all, those contribution rules discussions can be considered as religious...
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Quoting surfeur51:
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Deaf ears and all

No, really, you should not think you have deaf ears... 
You should just read and not interpret...

You are too funny.  Not once did I tell you not to post, only that I believed this to be a political topic.  You, as usual, only see your point of view so ignored anything that didn't support that point of view...even when you are the one saying it.  So, not only do you have deaf ears, but you are also blind.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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...So, not only do you have deaf ears, but you are also blind.

Yes !!!


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