Quoting Kluge:

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OK, so which one of these contributions is wrong:

I don't know that either of them is wrong.  Here is the rule: "Use the "Credited As" field where the actor's name differs from the credited name."

If the credit is 'Destiny's Child', they can be entered as 'Individual Name [Group Name]" because the actor's name differs from the credited name.

If, however, the credit is 'Michelle Williams', that is how it is entered because the actor's name does not differ from the credited name.

Quoting VirusPil:

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But the actors name is defined as common name, so if the common name/credit for her is Destiny's Child, we are still stucked at the same situation.

I am sorry, but I don't see that definition in the rules anywhere.  While the rules do say that "it is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT," they do not say that the actors name is defined as common name.

'Destiny's Child' is the name of the group, not any of the people in it.  When they are credited as Destiny's Child, the entry should be Destiny's Child.  When they are credited by their individual names, the entry should be the individual name and nothing in the rules, at least the way I read them, says we should do it any other way.

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Here is the rule: "Use the "Credited As" field where the actor's name differs from the credited name."

If the credit is 'Destiny's Child', they can be entered as 'Individual Name [Group Name]" because the actor's name differs from the credited name.

If, however, the credit is 'Michelle Williams', that is how it is entered because the actor's name does not differ from the credited name.

I disagree.  The actor's name is not differing from the credited name in these cases.  What is being credited is the group.  So, taking Private Buckaroo for an example, credited are "The Andrews Sisters" not "LaVerne Andrews" "Maxene Andrews" and "Patty Andrews." 

IMO:  If the group is credited, then the group name should be listed.  If the individual is listed, then the individual's name should be listed. 

We have this Destiny's Child concert at my shop (or did yesterday), so if it's still there when I get to work I'll borrow it and we'll see what the actual credits say and I can offer an opinion specifically to it.

Quoting VirusPil:

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Quoting TheMadMartian:

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'Destiny's Child' is the name of the group, not any of the people in it.  When they are credited as Destiny's Child, the entry should be Destiny's Child.  When they are credited by their individual names, the entry should be the individual name and nothing in the rules, at least the way I read them, says we should do it any other way.

That's how I also understand it, but with this I get confused (if you are not speaking of the common name):

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If the credit is 'Destiny's Child', they can be entered as 'Individual Name [Group Name]" because the actor's name differs from the credited name.

If we would say that's how it could be done, even if it is not the common name, this opens a lot of problems.
For new actors this would mean you could add whatever name you think it is, just because you say the credited name is not the onscreen-credit.

I don't think so because it seems farily obvios, at least to me, that Destiny's Child isn't a person or an actor, but a group so is a different situation all together.

Okay, actual credits from Destiny's Child: Live in Atlanta

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ARTIST
Beyonce Knowles
Kelly Rowland
Michelle Williams

SHOW CONCEIVED & CREATED BY
Beyonce Knowles
Kelly Rowland
Michelle Williams
Kim Burse
Frank Gatson Jr.

SHOW DIRECTED AND STAGED BY
Destiny's Child and
Frank Gatson Jr.

Filming Credits
DIRECTOR
Julia Knowles

(also under this heading, Producers, Executive Producers, Sound, etc)

Given those credits, I'm not sure that Destiny's Child should have a director credit, but if they should then, IMO, the credit should read "Destiny's Child" since the credits give both the individuals names under some credits and the group name under that credit.  Someone obviously intended this, so why alter it?

So I have 3 movies with this Michelle Williams in my Collection:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0931329/
2 of them have a BY=1980, 1 have not.
I mean the easiest way to deal with two actresses with same name and BY would be to give a BY to only one actress and no BY to the other one.
But now none of these two is listed in the List of Accepted Birth Years with Documentation.
Contribute the BY for the actress or remove them?

Nobody who could help here?   
I searched in the clt for michelle williams and a third actress with the name showed up:
This actress http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3619775/ also is listed in the clt.

Quoting ninso4:

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I found another thread dealig with the problem:
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=368097
So the wright thing woould be to remove the BY from the profiles and keep it local, right?

You are looking at a 4 year old thread here... with no official (from Invelos) response. It has been common practice to submit the one we have for years. Just because we don't have the other birth year(s) don't make the one submitted bad or incorrect info. it shouldn't be removed.