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Slip Cover or not ?
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There is a lot of examples of partial slip covers...

Some off the top of my head...

Three's Company: Season One


Region 1

Released: 11/11/2003

Full Frame 1.33




Three's Company: Season Two


Region 1

Released: 5/4/2004

Full Frame 1.33




Three's Company: Season Three


Region 1

Released: 11/2/2004

Full Frame 1.33




Three's Company: Season Four


Region 1

Released: 5/3/2005

Full Frame 1.33




Three's Company: Season Five


Region 1

Released: 11/15/2005

Full Frame 1.33




Three's Company: Season Six


Region 1

Released: 3/7/2006

Full Frame 1.33




Three's Company: Season Seven


Region 1

Released: 7/25/2006

Full Frame 1.33




Three's Company: Season Eight


Region 1

Released: 10/3/2006

Full Frame 1.33




Unsolved Mysteries: Ghosts


Region 1

Released: 9/11/2004

Full Frame 1.33






All scanned with the discs in the slip cover as they should be.

There is also many cases where the slip cover is just clear see-through plastic with the majority of the cover art on the main case... where you need both cases together to see the entire artwork.... scanning the slip cover alone would make no sense what so ever...matter of fact I never seen a slip cover scanned without the inner case being inside it.
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Sorry, should that be an answer to my last post? I don't get it.
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There are many different types of slip covers and this falls into that catagory.

So, as far as the online database is concerned, the contribution should be of the Keep Case inside of the Slip Cover.

The rules: "If a DVD is packaged in a keep case, within a slipcase of some kind, scan the Cover Images from the outer slipcase."

Since this is "a slipcase of some kind" then that is what should be contributed.
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Kathy
At least three things are wrong with your post. Sorry. For the first I don't agree that this is a slip cover. For the second it's a Blu-ray not a DVD. Third; It's not a keep case. It's a digibook.
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Sorry, should that be an answer to my last post? I don't get it.


I was already typing all that when you posted your last post.... it was all posted to answer your comment about posting the slipcover alone without the inner case.

The rules don't specifically state for every type of case.... it is crazy to think they could cover every circumstance... covering everything that is already out and that will ever come out in the future... it is just impossible.

All we can do is go with what the rules says and contribute to the best of our ability following those rules. And if you get an unsatisfactory situation either live with it for the online (locking how you want it locally) or ask Invelos for an exception to the rules or an amendment to the rules. What can't be done is do it how we feel is better without the OK from Ken or Gerri (Invelos).
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I was already typing all that when you posted your last post.... it was all posted to answer your comment about posting the slipcover alone without the inner case.

Fair enough. But I used that just as an option. (Not my preferred option). Because, as Katy quoted, there is a rule about keep cases (not digibooks), that says "scan the Cover Images from the outer slipcase" It does not say: use a combination.

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The rules don't specifically state for every type of case.... it is crazy to think they could cover every circumstance... covering everything that is already out and that will ever come out in the future... it is just impossible.

Agree. But it would have been much easier if the slip cover scanning rule(s) was removed all together.

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All we can do is go with what the rules says and contribute to the best of our ability following those rules. And if you get an unsatisfactory situation either live with it for the online (locking how you want it locally) or ask Invelos for an exception to the rules or an amendment to the rules. What can't be done is do it how we feel is better without the OK from Ken or Gerri (Invelos).
So what you are saying is; there is no rule covering this situation?
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I wholeheartedly believe the slipcover rule covers this.

I realize you don't feel this is a slip cover. But you asked what others thought. The majority of which don't agree with you.

From there all you can do is contribute and vote per what the rule state and what you have. In a case like this you don't believe it is a slip cover so all you can do is vote and contribute as such. But at the same time those of us that do believe it is would vote/contribute with the belief it is a slip cover per the slip cover rules.
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Simply put...
The combination of the two is what gives the complete cover. No different then any other slip cover where you scan it with the case inside to get the UPC number through the window.

No where does the rules say to remove the inner cover to scan just the slip cover.
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At least three things are wrong with your post. Sorry. For the first I don't agree that this is a slip cover. For the second it's a Blu-ray not a DVD. Third; It's not a keep case. It's a digibook.


I can't remember a single topic in which there was 100% agreement on anything. The best any of us can do is to contribute and vote based on our understanding of the rules and let the community and the screeners decide.

There is a pinned thread that addresses this topic: Slip Cover or Cases: http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=196158&PageNum=1.

I'm sorry but a Blu-ray is a type of DVD. It is a Digital Video Disc is it not?

Or. maybe DVD Profiler needs to change its name to DVD Video, HD-DVD Video, and Blu-ray Video discs (including MiniDVD) Profiler!

They type of Case isn't the issue you raised here but the Slip Cover (or not). But, it might have been better if I used the term "Case" or, as invelos does in the Cover Image rules "cover art".

I didn't quote all the Cover Image rules to save space but they can be found here: http://invelos.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=coverimages.
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Could be a Slip Case.

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Simply put...
The combination of the two is what gives the complete cover. No different then any other slip cover where you scan it with the case inside to get the UPC number through the window.

No where does the rules say to remove the inner cover to scan just the slip cover.

I doesn't say to remove it. And it doesn't say to keep it in there either. It only says: "scan the Cover Images from the outer slipcase". (Bold by me.) But that is just for "keep cases".
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Simply put...
The combination of the two is what gives the complete cover.

Maybe for keep cases but not for books. I would like to see how many have their digibooks in their shelves with this piece of garbage still on. The front cover of a book is on the book itself not on a piece of cardboard that the distributor put on it.

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I realize you don't feel this is a slip cover. But you asked what others thought. The majority of which don't agree with you.
Yes, I asked. But majority, well.  I would not say that.
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I'm sorry but a Blu-ray is a type of DVD. It is a Digital Video Disc is it not?

Or. maybe DVD Profiler needs to change its name to DVD Video, HD-DVD Video, and Blu-ray Video discs (including MiniDVD) Profiler!

Not exactly, DVD = Digital Versatile Disc. (Blu-ray is a different type of media.)

I wouldn't mind if they changed name to "DVD & Blu-ray Profiler" (DBP).
But I would mind if the changed name to "DVD with Slip Cover Profiler". LOL 
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Simply put...
The combination of the two is what gives the complete cover.

Maybe for keep cases but not for books. I would like to see how many have their digibooks in their shelves with this piece of garbage still on. The front cover of a book is on the book itself not on a piece of cardboard that the distributor put on it.

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I realize you don't feel this is a slip cover. But you asked what others thought. The majority of which don't agree with you.
Yes, I asked. But majority, well.  I would not say that.


When I said the majority.. I of course meant the majority of those that replied in this thread. That is after all the only thing I could possibly know... I have no idea what people outside this thread feels... just like you don't.

And with that... I can see you will feel what you feel. There is no need for me to continue on... so I am done with this thread. I will just continue to vote and contribute on how I read the rules and how I see the item I am profiling.
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The rules: "If a DVD is packaged in a keep case, within a slipcase of some kind, scan the Cover Images from the outer slipcase."

Since this is "a slipcase of some kind" then that is what should be contributed.


This part of the rules have the terminology all mixed up. Unless they really mean Slip Case, which I doubt since it makes no sense to scan the outer slipcase if the DVD is individually packaged and profiled.

And the DVD part, well it's still all over the rules and the program. It really should be changed to something more generic. Like disc perhaps. And of course case instead of keep case.
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I think of this particular type of slip cover as a "J card".  It covers the whole back of the case, then folds over the top or the bottom and covers a part of the front of the case (a bit like the letter "J").  Sometimes the sides are partially covered, as well.

In most of the cases I've seen, the back of the J card contains the UPC, Overview, credit block, basic information about the release (AR, Audio Tracks, Subtitles, etc), i.e. all the usual stuff that a back cover has, and the actual case has none of that information, typically just a picture or a photo related to the feature.

That's why the back cover scan needs to be of the J card and as that same J card extends to the front, I see that it should be included in the front cover scan as well.  Whether it covers a tenth, a fifth, a fourth or whatever part of the front cover. "The covers must match the profile exactly, including the UPC and locality".

I'm not interested in "nicer pictures", as I like to see an accurate representation of the package after it has been unwrapped (let's keep shrinkwraps out of this discussion, please ).
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