Quoting Jimmy S:

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Forget it... I keep the way I read the rules as that make more senses than using the openning title of a DVD as a movie can use a theatrical print under a different title.

Yeah, that's what happened to Star Wars (Episode IV), which is why we use the ORIGINAL theatrical title and not the re-release title.

I'm old enough to have seen it myself. 

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I'm old enough to have seen it myself. 

I was too young (it doesn't happen often that I can say that), but I've read the Marvel comic book when they were released in the seventies

Quoting Jimmy S:

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I was too young (it doesn't happen often that I can say that), but I've read the Marvel comic book when they were released in the seventies

I don't know if it was Marvel but I had this (with the Swedish title on the cover of course) which I read until it fell apart.

Quoting Jimmy S:

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Forget it... I keep the way I read the rules as that make more senses than using the openning title of a DVD as a movie can use a theatrical print under a different title.

It's not that we take the title from the DVD, we take the title from the movie itself, which is the definitive document. It's the reason why we take cast and crew from the credits and not credit blocks on posters or press releases.

When the rules discuss original theatrical titles vs. altered DVD title, "DVD title" doesn't refer the title card from the movie on the DVD as you seem to suggest. It refers to the title on the DVD cover. In this case, the DVD title from the image you posted is "Star Wars V: The Empire Strikes Back". The original theatrical title is the the title that was attached to the film on its original release, as dictated by the filmmakers/producers. Not the title some marketing whiz used when he created the posters.

I guess you're worried that the movie on the DVD is not an accurate record of the theatrical release. In the case of SW, if you own the DVD release of the further altered Special Editions, you may be right. But luckily, the original theatrical versions of the movies ARE available on DVD and are what DJ Doena/Karsten posted images from.

I: Star Wars: The Phantom Menace

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Quoting Rizor:

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I agree with DJ Doena. The contributor is correct. We use the opening titles for the source of the original title, not posters.

The original titles for these films, based on their original theatrical opening titles are:

Star Wars
Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

The episode #s have always been there for each one but the original Star Wars.

As per the rules: "Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break."

I agree. I distinctly remember seeing ESB during it's original theatrical run and seeing the "Episode V" as part of the crawl. Same for RotJ. With the exception of the original Star Wars, the episode numbers have always been there since their original theatrical releases.

I saw all three during their original theatrical runs and, with the exception of Star Wars, the episode portion was part of the title crawl.

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The LD ports on the non-anamorphic DVDs are the original theatrical versions. The confusions comes in because there isn't a single original theatrical version. The 35mm theatrical versions had Dolby Stereo (basically Dolby Surround) and the 70mm version used Dolby Stereo 70mm (basically 5.1). The two mixes had a few different audio cues and lines of dialogue.

Well, there was at least one additional home video mix but maybe it was only used on VHS as it would have been in mono in those early days. Many theatrical prints were also in mono. That was how I first heard it. The VHS stereo mix is almost the same as the 35mm mix though. The "definitive edition" LD mix was actually a matrixed stereo-remix of the 6-track audio with some completely new sound effects not present in the original.

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This is the unedited original edition (even non-amamorphic). This is the movie exactly as it ran in the theatres 32/35 years ago.

Unless you have a 35mm print of the movie yourself you can't say this without being 100% sure...

For those who said they have seen them in 1980 and 1983 in a theater and the episode number was in the crawl sorry to told you this but the memory isn't as reliable as we think. Repeat a fact enough and people will believe it's true...

Anyway as I said it will be approve as the contributor had a lot of contribution and the screeners always believe them blindly....

The contributor sure take a drop on my confidence scale acting like an idiot like he do with the editing game he play in his contribution note. I know you read the thread...

Funny because when I have myself a contested contribution and the contestation and the original contribution are valid, I withdraw my contribution. I did it two weeks ago without the need of playing the you're wrong and I'm right game with the negative voter.