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B & W, Color, Mixed
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAlien Redrum
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I only hope that the database's failure to record that there are two minutes of color don't put off anyone who might otherwise have given it a try. 

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But of course the rules had to screw this up by talking about percantages... 

A good rule, because it's ridiculous to call a film with two colored frames and 170,000 black & white frames a "mixed" color film.


Well I never wanted the color option in the database in the first place but some people felt they had to have it... But it's even more ridiculous to implement a feature and then don't use it for what it was intended for. Of course there will always be a few narrow cases but the 10% rule is just arbitrary nonsense.
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Well I never wanted the color option in the database in the first place but some people felt they had to have it... But it's even more ridiculous to implement a feature and then don't use it for what it was intended for. Of course there will always be a few narrow cases but the 10% rule is just arbitrary nonsense.


Agree 100%.
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the 10% rule is just arbitrary

Of course it is, as are many of the rules.

If you really wanted to take this rule literally you'd see that it already gives you exactly what you ask for:
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Use when the coloring for at least 10% of the film differs from the rest of the film.

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But of course the rules had to screw this up by talking about percantages... 

A good rule, because it's ridiculous to call a film with two colored frames and 170,000 black & white frames a "mixed" color film.


Well I never wanted the color option in the database in the first place but some people felt they had to have it... But it's even more ridiculous to implement a feature and then don't use it for what it was intended for. Of course there will always be a few narrow cases but the 10% rule is just arbitrary nonsense.


Amen.
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If you really wanted to take this rule literally you'd see that it already gives you exactly what you ask for: Use when the coloring for at least 10% of the film differs from the rest of the film.


Wanted? Since when did following the rules become optional? Of course we have to follow the rules when contributing, I never said anything else. That it makes us all look like morons uncapable of thinking for ourselves is just a bonus in this case.
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Of course we have to follow the rules when contributing, I never said anything else. That it makes us all look like morons uncapable of thinking for ourselves is just a bonus in this case.

Following someone else's rules for populating their database does not make anyone look like a moron.  Besides, a literal reading of the "Mixed" color definition reveals that it does not say what most people seem to think it does.

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Following someone else's rules for populating their database does not make anyone look like a moron. 


Yes it does when it makes the data useless.

And if you're refering to the loophole that the rule presents, I'm  not buying it.
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And if you're refering to the loophole that the rule presents, I'm  not buying it.

I'm glad to see that you believe in sticking to the intent of the rules an not necessarily the letter.

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That it makes us all look like morons uncapable of thinking for ourselves is just a bonus in this case.

It's the case with many of the rules, but your common sense isn't my common sense and my common sense isn't another user common sense. That's why we have the strict rules for the database and the "everything goes" rules for our personal database.
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That it makes us all look like morons uncapable of thinking for ourselves is just a bonus in this case.

It's the case with many of the rules, but your common sense isn't my common sense and my common sense isn't another user common sense. That's why we have the strict rules for the database and the "everything goes" rules for our personal database.


Yes sir, I know the drill sir!

However, I would have simply stated in the rules to use Mixed when there are scenes in both color and black & white. I don't think we need to qualify it any more than that. If there ever is a dispute over a 1/24 second frame, let them dispute it!
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Agreed the 10% is arbitrary, especially if some wiseass wants to argue the closing credits and black and white.
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Invelos needs to supply the community with stop watches in order to figure out and contribute this data! 

Why should this section be the only one with a 10% rule? Ken really should re-think this area since it is not consistent with the rulings made in other areas.

For example. we are required to copy data exactly from the back cover...except when it comes to B&W, Color, Mixed data.

The 10% rule is arbitrary, inconsistent and makes contributing this data more complex than it should be.

"It's either mixed or it's not. It should be that simple."
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"It's either mixed or it's not. It should be that simple."

Agreed
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Invelos needs to supply the community with stop watches in order to figure out and contribute this data! 

The 10% rule is arbitrary, inconsistent and makes contributing this data more complex than it should be.

"It's either mixed or it's not. It should be that simple."


Agreed 100%
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Agreed 100%

Agreed 9.99%

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