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BY madness, can we get real about it?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMerrik
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Quoting Lewis_Prothero:
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Suddenly you need to play Towers of Hanoi:

You create a second Kevin Smith with an illogical BY, like 9999.
You edit Die Hard 4.0 and replace "Kevin Smith (1970)" (his actual BY!) with the "Kevin Smith (9999)".
Now you edit "Kevin Smith (1970)" to either "Kevin Smith" or "Kevin Smith (1963)" (Ares' actual BY)
And now you can properly edit "Kevin Smith (9999)" back to "Kevin Smith (1970)"


That's a bit overcomplicated thinking.
In fact all you have to do is edit your Kevin Smith entry to having BY 1963.
Next you open the Die Hard profile create a new Kevin Smith with BY 1970 and replace the 1963 one.
Done.

But I agree that this automatic import of BYs is not the best of all possible solutions, for not saying it is more like one of the worst.


Agree with Lewis_Prothero. Don't overcomplicate things for yourself! 

I'd simply go into Die Hard 4, find Kevin Smith & remove the birth year. Now neither have a birth year, but are still intertwined. Then I'd create a new actor, Kevin Smith (1970) and replace the other actor with that one. Now Die Hard 4 has Kevin Smith (1970) and the other profiles have the other Kevin Smith (at that point if you wanted, you could add 1963 to the other Kevin Smith). The way you're describing is way too much work when there's simpler ways! 
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Just working within the system we have now.

Have you never thought that this attitude might be the main reason why Ken has not yet (and probably will never) improved the system ?
I think that if nobody contributed anything to a now useless online database, Ken would really take things in hand.

BTW, the best way to avoid undesired BY is to never download anything from the online. You will also avoid many other "rules generated" errors. For my local, it works quite well...


If you look back at my posting history, I'm one of the few who regularly lobbies for change on this site despite what some of the other... regular... members like to keep throwing out. Members like myself, Sam and Alien have taken a lot of heat over the years for being vocal about the changes that should be made to make this a more efficient system. You can work within a system and still try to change it. And that's the kind of person I am. I work within the rules as they're set out now (as flawed as they can be and are) and share that with the community. I'm not going to hold back a good contribution from some of my fellow members, especially Canadian members where we don't get nearly as many updates as U.S. members (who also regularly share really great updates, like Joe63 and DoubleDownAgain) because the system is flawed. That's like saying "I'm taking my toys and I'm going home and you can't play with them" and I don't like that mentality. Could just be me, and others might not agree with that, and that's cool. We all work differently. I'll keep being vocal even though others may not agree or like me for it, but I'll keep doing what I can to share what I can within the system we have now.



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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDorianGray
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Sorry to ask, but what is the problem with having a (correct) birthyear for an actor?
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Sorry to ask, but what is the problem with having a (correct) birthyear for an actor?

2 problems:
- It is quite hard, if not impossible, to find documentation for the birthyears of less known actors.
- There are several cases in which the birthyear doesn't suffice to distinguish between two persons, because they are not only sharing the name, but sadly the BY too.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Just working within the system we have now.

Have you never thought that this attitude might be the main reason why Ken has not yet (and probably will never) improved the system ?
I think that if nobody contributed anything to a now useless online database, Ken would really take things in hand.

BTW, the best way to avoid undesired BY is to never download anything from the online. You will also avoid many other "rules generated" errors. For my local, it works quite well...


If you look back at my posting history, I'm one of the few who regularly lobbies for change on this site despite what some of the other... regular... members like to keep throwing out. Members like myself, Sam and Alien have taken a lot of heat over the years for being vocal about the changes that should be made to make this a more efficient system. You can work within a system and still try to change it. And that's the kind of person I am. I work within the rules as they're set out now (as flawed as they can be and are) and share that with the community. I'm not going to hold back a good contribution from some of my fellow members, especially Canadian members where we don't get nearly as many updates as U.S. members (who also regularly share really great updates, like Joe63 and DoubleDownAgain) because the system is flawed. That's like saying "I'm taking my toys and I'm going home and you can't play with them" and I don't like that mentality. Could just be me, and others might not agree with that, and that's cool. We all work differently. I'll keep being vocal even though others may not agree or like me for it, but I'll keep doing what I can to share what I can within the system we have now.



I don't contribute anymore, but if I lived in Canada, this post would motivate me to. <3



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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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It's indeed unfortunate that about half of the birth years in our database are needed only because of porn actors

and this is a problem why... actors are actors.

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who the hell buys porn anymore with the internet now 

I and many others do... There is a huge difference between free jerking off materials on the web and films.
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There is a huge difference between free jerking off materials on the web and films.

Which is???
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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One thing I've learned in the past is to not waste my time to explain it... anyway this isn't the place.
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Quoting Jimmy S:
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Quoting T!M:
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It's indeed unfortunate that about half of the birth years in our database are needed only because of porn actors

and this is a problem why... actors are actors.

Quoting Merrik:
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who the hell buys porn anymore with the internet now 

I and many others do... There is a huge difference between free jerking off materials on the web and films.


Don't be offended! Wasn't a jab at anyone! Just a little humour thrown in for the sake of humour's sake. I haven't bought porn in... crap, can't remember how long, that's all I was saying. Most humour directed towards me... by me! 
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Don't be offended!

I was not offended by your comment at all, just felt the need to say that a difference exist between a film with sex in it and a 10 minutes internet clip with, by exemple, Jenna Doll, Whitney Stevens or Bree Olson.
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Don't be offended!

I was not offended by your comment at all




Quoting Jimmy S:
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just felt the need to say that a difference exist between a film with sex in it and a 10 minutes internet clip with, by exemple, Jenna Doll, Whitney Stevens or Bree Olson


Yeah... no idea who those women are...   
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Quoting Merrik:
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just felt the need to say that a difference exist between a film with sex in it and a 10 minutes internet clip with, by exemple, Jenna Doll, Whitney Stevens or Bree Olson


Yeah... no idea who those women are...   


No problem here,
I bet you wouldn't introduce either of them to your parents anyway.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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Yeah... no idea who those women are...   



Jenna Doll


Whitney Stevens


Bree Olson

and Michael I would be proud to present any of them to my parent 
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Not to crap on the hard work many do to make this a better database, but I've been noticing so many updates which are just assigning birth years for very slim and often unnecessary reasons. I've held my tonuge and just used my locks til now, but it's really getting out of hand.

Prime example and what drove me over the edge:
James Woods. Not to knock on anyone's tastes or interests, but do we have a huge gay porn membership here? Even if so, this guy has one movie which isn't even out on dvd, anywhere! Why do we need a BY for the famous guy? Is this gonna be a concern for anyone if that movie ever comes out on dvd? Can we at least limit the BY's to people who share a name AND have credits here that need to be separated? There's a million other porn stars who "borrow" names of the famous everyday, some even have dvd titles, do we want a BY for everyone?



I don't have a problem with the addition of BY's when they are needed. My issue is with constant BY additions and not a single correction to the incorrect cast & crew credits. New one up now has 9 incorrect cast names in it.
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