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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,196 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mithi: Quote:
If the picture is 1.33:1 on a BD it certainly is not full frame. Whether there are black bars or black columns, they ain't counting as picture. My copy of The Prisoner on BD is 1.33:1 and it has Full Frame ticked. What would the alternative be? We don't have any other way to signify pillar boxing. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,217 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting iPatsa: Quote:
My copy of The Prisoner on BD is 1.33:1 and it has Full Frame ticked. What would the alternative be? We don't have any other way to signify pillar boxing. Fullframe SD ... but the whole "full frame", "widescreen" is conceptually flawed in my opinion, as this branch of the discussion shows. The aspect ratio should be recorded and whether this is the OAR or not (or possibly the OAR). But that would of course open up another jar of the pandora as to be a documentation nightmare. | | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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| Registered: May 16, 2010 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 516 |
| | Posted: | | | | OK in Interstellar the main format is 2.40:1 and in Other Features I put: IMAX®-Sequences in Videoformat 1.78:1 | | | *
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SwissFilm: Quote:
in Interstellar the main format is 2.40:1 and in Other Features I put: IMAX®-Sequences in Videoformat 1.78:1 Do whatever you want. The voters decide. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote:
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in Interstellar the main format is 2.40:1 and in Other Features I put: IMAX®-Sequences in Videoformat 1.78:1
Do whatever you want. The voters decide. Wrong. The voters vote, the screeners decide!  | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SwissFilm: Quote:
OK in Interstellar the main format is 2.40:1 and in Other Features I put: IMAX®-Sequences in Videoformat 1.78:1 Sounds like the best course of action. Even though the program is lacking for instances like this with multiple WS ratios for a film, using the other features to at least get the info into the profile is all that matters. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,196 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mithi: Quote:
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My copy of The Prisoner on BD is 1.33:1 and it has Full Frame ticked. What would the alternative be? We don't have any other way to signify pillar boxing.
Fullframe SD ... but the whole "full frame", "widescreen" is conceptually flawed in my opinion, as this branch of the discussion shows.
The aspect ratio should be recorded and whether this is the OAR or not (or possibly the OAR). But that would of course open up another jar of the pandora as to be a documentation nightmare. The AR can be recorded. I just tried to enter 1.33:1 without ticking either Full Frame or Widescreen but then the graphics disappeared all together. But the AR still shows up in text mode. It's just missing an icon. Update: As counter intuitive as it may seem, entering 1.33:1 and ticking Widescreen actually produces a result I can live with. No more dreaded Full Frame! | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DoubleDownAgain: Quote:
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in Interstellar the main format is 2.40:1 and in Other Features I put: IMAX®-Sequences in Videoformat 1.78:1
Do whatever you want. The voters decide.
Wrong. The voters vote, the screeners decide! You are new to the process, aren't you? | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote:
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in Interstellar the main format is 2.40:1 and in Other Features I put: IMAX®-Sequences in Videoformat 1.78:1
Do whatever you want. The voters decide.
Wrong. The voters vote, the screeners decide!
You are new to the process, aren't you? Nope, the Screeners may be lazy and just go by what the voters have voted, but in the end it is still their decision. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DoubleDownAgain: Quote:
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in Interstellar the main format is 2.40:1 and in Other Features I put: IMAX®-Sequences in Videoformat 1.78:1
Do whatever you want. The voters decide.
Wrong. The voters vote, the screeners decide!
You are new to the process, aren't you?
Nope, the Screeners may be lazy and just go by what the voters have voted, but in the end it is still their decision. the screeners should know what the contribution rules are. And should not approve or deny based on votes. if 99 out of 100 votes are not right, it is up to the screeners to get it right without letting public opinion factor into it. And if they can't do that, then Ken needs new screeners. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,722 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
the screeners should know what the contribution rules are. Unfortunately, they often don't. Quote:
And should not approve or deny based on votes. Unfortunately, they often do. Quote:
if 99 out of 100 votes are not right, it is up to the screeners to get it right without letting public opinion factor into it. If, indeed, 99 out of 100 votes are not right, then it's my experience that the screeners won't get it right either. Quote:
And if they can't do that, then Ken needs new screeners. It seems he does. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
the screeners should know what the contribution rules are. And should not approve or deny based on votes. In fact, we have cases where strict application of rules leads to inept data. I have seen screeners accept correct (but against the rules) data in some cases, and I think it is a very good thing for normal downloaders, who expect to get correct profiles from the online. Our problem comes from people who don't care about movies, but love collecting errors. | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 23, 2011 | | Posts: 462 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
the screeners should know what the contribution rules are. And should not approve or deny based on votes.
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if 99 out of 100 votes are not right, it is up to the screeners to get it right without letting public opinion factor into it. And if they can't do that, then Ken needs new screeners. Seems to me he needs new voters first.  |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Invelos Support: Quote:
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but can't lookup other versions by title, as that function does not work anymore on my desktop despite re-installing 5 times.  
What happens when you try? This:  I've tried sending a couple reports and they say they succeeded, but haven't heard anything back. The last thing I haven't done but will try when I finish typing is clicking that restart button on the error screen. Can't imagine it will be any different than a standard restart, or any other restart, but then I will have literally tried everything. EDIT. and that failed miserably. Tried a few times. First off, the OK button is greyed out unless I click iunclude a screenshot. When I do that a pop-up error comes up saying profiler is already running and can't start. Like it's trying to start it without closing it first. | | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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| Registered: April 1, 2007 | | Posts: 118 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
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I've tried sending a couple reports and they say they succeeded, but haven't heard anything back. The last thing I haven't done but will try when I finish typing is clicking that restart button on the error screen. Can't imagine it will be any different than a standard restart, or any other restart, but then I will have literally tried everything.
EDIT. and that failed miserably. Tried a few times. First off, the OK button is greyed out unless I click iunclude a screenshot. When I do that a pop-up error comes up saying profiler is already running and can't start. Like it's trying to start it without closing it first. Select Online->Refresh Online Profile List while holding CTRL. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Support Representative |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
then I will have literally tried everything. "Invalid Floating Point" operations usually indicate that one (or more) of your system fonts is/are missing and/or corrupted. DVDProfiler uses Tahoma.ttf Please check what happens if you reinstall Tahoma.ttf from your Windows DVD. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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