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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with Hal.
Moreover, I'm thinking that if a BD/DVD combo set has been released with different DVD Disc IDs, this might warrant using the variants feature for the parent profile as well: different disc IDs for the DVD, different box set contents (DVD child profile). |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not sure I follow you on that. Are you saying that a Blu-ray and a Blu-ray Combo are released with the same UPC? I'm not sure I've ever seen that. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: May 30, 2008 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | hal9g: I understand what you're saying about the rules. I'm just saying that if you wanted a complete breakdown on what was on one disc vs the other, the obvious way to accomplish that would be to have separate profiles for each disc, with none of the features / formats / etc. from one profile getting dumped into an overall profile with the other.
Cast and crew are generally identical for the same film; so much of the rest can vary from one disc in a combined profile to the next. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think that's what the rules tell us to do, with the exception of the fact that the DVD media type is included in the Blu-ray profile. Otherwise, only the info from the Blu-ray disc should be included in the main profile. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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The main Blu-ray profile should show all the features in the set regardless of which disc they are on.
That's not the way I interpret this part of the Rule on Combos:
" are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type"
and this:
"A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile"
bolding by me. You are correct, I misremembered the rule and neglected to go back and read it before I answered.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Not sure I follow you on that. Are you saying that a Blu-ray and a Blu-ray Combo are released with the same UPC? I'm not sure I've ever seen that. Not sure if this was addressed to me. If so: no. What I gathered was that there is a BD/DVD combo set with one UPC but different DVD Disc IDs in it. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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Not sure I follow you on that. Are you saying that a Blu-ray and a Blu-ray Combo are released with the same UPC? I'm not sure I've ever seen that.
Not sure if this was addressed to me. If so: no. What I gathered was that there is a BD/DVD combo set with one UPC but different DVD Disc IDs in it. I think this is covered by allowing alternate disc id's to be contributed, not variant profiles. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
I agree with Hal.
Moreover, I'm thinking that if a BD/DVD combo set has been released with different DVD Disc IDs, this might warrant using the variants feature for the parent profile as well: different disc IDs for the DVD, different box set contents (DVD child profile). As hal said, this is not what the variants are for. The variant is supposed to be used when the same disc ID is being used in multiple sets. Something like a movie that was released on its own, then later packaged in a 2 or more film favorites set. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: May 30, 2008 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | Another bizarre one: "The Town" 883929-106653 ... my local profile thought it had lots of discs, but there were only two ...
Main Feature (BD)
EC16CA8165635FEC [THE_TOWN]
Main Feature (DVD) + Digital Copy
0E7025A18D7F540F [THE_TOWN]
Main Feature
0E7025A18D7F540F [THE_TOWN]
Main Feature
4BBA29CFF92D1304 [THE_TOWN]
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I actually have?
BD:
EC16CA8165635FEC [THE_TOWN]
My DVD / Digital copy:
0E7025A18D7F540F [THE_TOWN]
This has to be messing up my online profile count and my local count as well. I ended up with a "count as" of four vs two after fixing this mess. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting dee1959jay:
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I agree with Hal.
Moreover, I'm thinking that if a BD/DVD combo set has been released with different DVD Disc IDs, this might warrant using the variants feature for the parent profile as well: different disc IDs for the DVD, different box set contents (DVD child profile).
As hal said, this is not what the variants are for. The variant is supposed to be used when the same disc ID is being used in multiple sets. Something like a movie that was released on its own, then later packaged in a 2 or more film favorites set. I understand that. I'm just wondering about box sets which can be re-released with the same titles in them but on different discs than in the original release. This does happen. And then you could argue there should be different variants at the parent level, the difference being different box set contents / child profiles. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
I understand that. I'm just wondering about box sets which can be re-released with the same titles in them but on different discs than in the original release. This does happen. And then you could argue there should be different variants at the parent level, the difference being different box set contents / child profiles. If the UPC is the same, all you would need to do is create a new child profile based on the new disc ID. I don't see the need to create an alternate parent if the contents are exactly the same except for the disc ID. All people would have to do is pick the child that they own...unless I am missing something. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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