I used them in the beginning when I didn't have a Blu-ray drive. You could download the digital copy and do an audit from it.

This is good until you change computers or enough devices in your computer or update media player then they are no longer valid. At this point the time limit has run out and this further makes them moot.

Quoting Penthouse1714:

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Hello everyone, I am the one submitting the removal of the digital copy discs.  The reasoning I am referencing is from the What to Contribute section.  I don't see digital copy discs listed here.  If I am missing something, please let me know, and I would be happy to withdraw.

What to Contribute

Contribute only the following items to the main database:

"DVD Video, HD-DVD Video, and Blu-ray Video" discs (including MiniDVD): These discs contain movies, television shows, music performances and other professionally-produced and sold DVDs. No CDs, DVD-Audio discs, video games, Video CDs, or VHS titles will be accepted.
“DVD Video”: These discs, included as bonus discs with CDs or video games are accepted, but only contribute the DVD Video information.
Dual-Disc DVDs (which store both “DVD Video” and “DVD Audio” information): These can be contributed, but include “DVD Video” information only.

You are misreading this rule.  This rule has to do with what kind of profiles to contribute.  In other words, only contribute profiles for those items.  This has nothing to do with whether or not they should be included as a disc ID entry in the actual profile.

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Quoting Penthouse1714:

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Hello everyone, I am the one submitting the removal of the digital copy discs.  The reasoning I am referencing is from the What to Contribute section.  I don't see digital copy discs listed here.  If I am missing something, please let me know, and I would be happy to withdraw.

What to Contribute

Contribute only the following items to the main database:

"DVD Video, HD-DVD Video, and Blu-ray Video" discs (including MiniDVD): These discs contain movies, television shows, music performances and other professionally-produced and sold DVDs. No CDs, DVD-Audio discs, video games, Video CDs, or VHS titles will be accepted.
“DVD Video”: These discs, included as bonus discs with CDs or video games are accepted, but only contribute the DVD Video information.
Dual-Disc DVDs (which store both “DVD Video” and “DVD Audio” information): These can be contributed, but include “DVD Video” information only.

You are misreading this rule.  This rule has to do with what kind of profiles to contribute.  In other words, only contribute profiles for those items.  This has nothing to do with whether or not they should be included as a disc ID entry in the actual profile.

That's how I was reading the rules too... i.e. no creation of new top or child profiles based on these types of media.  But it doesn't (seem to) preclude documenting these discs within a valid profile. Unfortunately the current rules cover nothing regarding what isn't permitted in the discID fields, except for no IDs in movie box set parent profiles.

IMO having all the discs contained being listed is useful, even if not readable for ID by Profiler, as documentation of what's in the package.

This just looks wrong: Digital Copy [] SL

I don't see any benefit to the database to include data that can be found elsewhere.

Hopefully Ken will weigh in since this issue is not clear and the community is divided.

If not than, like so many other debatable issues, the voters and the screeners will need to decide.

While I agree, if the disc ID cannot be read by Profiler, then it shouldn't be listed.

We listed them for many many profiles, while they were being distributed.. 


I think if we are going to change the way they are contributed, I think there ought to be something added to the rules to specify exactly what is allowed.

Do we ban all DC exclusive discs.  Do we only ban the ones where profiler cannot read the ID. 

My 2.5 cents...


Charlie

I've already found a great fix for it, just put "disc DC" in the notes locally and it doesn't matter if there's an ID for the DC disc.
I don't use them myself, but keep track of them to sell em on other sites.

Another fun fact. Before finding out about jump drives and faking computers into thinking the discs were there, I tried to sell disc based copies by offering dubbing the dvd/dc discs that my computer does read. It works great except it doesn't acknowledge the DC info at all, so even with full disc copy I got a dvd only!
Maybe sharing that info will save someone else a new coaster.  

I'm good either way this gets ruled on, but tend to lean towards if the drive can't read it, don't include it.

Quoting Voltaire53:

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Quoting Kathy:

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This just looks wrong: Digital Copy [] SL

I don't see any benefit to the database to include data that can be found elsewhere.

But surely even "Digital Copy [] SL" *does* add a benefit; it shows that the digital copy is on a disc (and thus permanently owned) and NOT a downloadable digital copy (which will be time limited and useless if you are buying the title sometime after release).

AIUI there is no other way to tell the two apart so it does strike me as pretty important (unless a Rule is introduced that says the distinction should be made/clarrified another way, such as in 'Other Features').

You make an excellent point and makes me think this data should in fact be included.

even if expires... it doesn't change the fact that it is the only way to distinguish if it is a physical disc or just a download code.