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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | In the case of complete series sets... per the rules as given to us by Ken himself (he made the rule even stricter then any of us asked for on his own)... if the seasons in the set has upc numbers then you can make season level profiles. If there is no upc numbers on the seasons in the set then it is just the complete series parent profile with all the info in it with optional disc level child profiles.
Once again sets like that only get season profiles if the season sets in the complete series box set has UPC numbers... and this is a rule Ken made himself... so it is how Ken himself wants it. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | When I read the part that scottm refers to: Quote Quote:
Cover Images. If a disc, or set of discs, have their own case, use the cover images from that case. I interpret that to mean the parent case, which in this instance includes a slip cover, so I think the contribution is 100% correct. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
When I read the part that scottm refers to:
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Cover Images. If a disc, or set of discs, have their own case, use the cover images from that case.
I interpret that to mean the parent case, which in this instance includes a slip cover, so I think the contribution is 100% correct. The way I read it is that if a disc has its own case, i.e. something that's different than what you see when you look at the parent (a keep case vs. a slip cover in this case), then it gets its own cover art off of its case. So I believe a "no" vote is in order for these contributions. --------------- | | | | Last edited: by scotthm |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
In the case of complete series sets... per the rules as given to us by Ken himself (he made the rule even stricter then any of us asked for on his own)... if the seasons in the set has upc numbers then you can make season level profiles. If there is no upc numbers on the seasons in the set then it is just the complete series parent profile with all the info in it with optional disc level child profiles.
Once again sets like that only get season profiles if the season sets in the complete series box set has UPC numbers... and this is a rule Ken made himself... so it is how Ken himself wants it. And this rule is useless! - Concerning films it is: one feature one profile - without any technical restrictions. The same should be used with series: one season one (full featured) profile regardless if the season package carries a UPC. Before we got Alternate Versions there was a problem which ID to use (the season and the first disc would have gotten the same Disc ID)... | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | It don't matter if you feel the rule is useless or not... if you want to contribute to the main online database you must do so per the rules Invelos puts out. You can't pick and choose what rules you follow and what rules you don't just by whether or not you like the rule.
And for the record not everyone thinks the same way as you. Not everyone see a season as 1 feature. I personally see each episode as a feature in itself... but that don't mean I will make a profile for every single episode... as I said Box Sets and TV Series are 2 different thing... with 2 different rules. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
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Before we got Alternate Versions there was a problem which ID to use (the season and the first disc would have gotten the same Disc ID)... as for this part...it was widely believed by alot if people to use season info from the first disc... till it was found on the forum where someone asked Ken that very question and it was he said he felt that disc id profiles should only have info from that disc. So it was never actually meant to use the first disc id for the season info. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Edited to remove content per request.
This thread was started because I did not understand someone's thinking.
I should have known that bringing an issue to the forums seldom results in a satisfactory solution.
My standard practice is to just vote the way I believe is correct and ignore any other votes. This thread, and a few others, reinforces that belief and I'm sorry I started this thread. | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
It has been brought to my attention by the "no" voter that although the contributions are correct No, you were not told that. You were told that the notes were not applicable, and that the contributions were "questionable at best". I believe they are incorrect. In the future, please refrain from discussing the contents of my PMs on a public forum. --------------- | | | | Last edited: by scotthm |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
The way I read it is that if a disc has its own case, i.e. something that's different than what you see when you look at the parent (a keep case vs. a slip cover in this case), then it gets its own cover art off of its case. So I believe a "no" vote is in order for these contributions.
--------------- But the discs don't have their own cases. They are all in the same case. If they were in separate cases within the parent case, I would agree with you. A slip cover does not qualify as a case. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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When I read the part that scottm refers to:
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Cover Images. If a disc, or set of discs, have their own case, use the cover images from that case.
I interpret that to mean the parent case, which in this instance includes a slip cover, so I think the contribution is 100% correct.
The way I read it is that if a disc has its own case, i.e. something that's different than what you see when you look at the parent (a keep case vs. a slip cover in this case), then it gets its own cover art off of its case. So I believe a "no" vote is in order for these contributions. I'm sorry, but what? If four discs come in a single case, they don't "have their own case", they share a case. If that case has a slipcover, then that is the scan and case type it gets. That is the basic rule of cases and cover scans. I don't see anything that changes that basic rule when there are multiple discs in the case. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | I must say... I am still confused here. Without knowing exactly what set(s) this is talking about I can't say if this is right or wrong. I was shown the example of King of Queens: The Complete Series set. Obviously that set is not all in one case. But apparently this was a side discussion? | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
But the discs don't have their own cases. They are all in the same case. Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
If four discs come in a single case, they don't "have their own case", they share a case. Obviously a "set of discs" can have their own case.  --------------- |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Obviously a "set of discs" can have their own case. I never said otherwise. The problem here, or so it seems, is that you are confusing this: Box Case 1 Disc 1 Disc 2 Disc 3 Disc 4 Case 2 Disc 5 Disc 6 Disc 7 Disc 8 Case 3 Disc 9 Disc 10 Disc 11 Disc 12 Case 4 Disc 13 Disc 14 Disc 15 Disc 16 With this: Case with slipcover Disc 1 Disc 2 Disc 3 Disc 4 The two are not the same. In the first example, each set of discs has their own case, so they follow the rule you quoted. In the second example, the set of discs share a case, so do not. I don't know how to make it any clearer than that. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is exactly the way I always understood it as well Martian.  | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,850 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
The two are not the same. Yes, thank you. No, I'm not confusing the two. I've already explained my thoughts on the matter upthread where I said Quote:
The way I read it is that if a disc has its own case, i.e. something that's different than what you see when you look at the parent (a keep case vs. a slip cover in this case), then it gets its own cover art off of its case. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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The two are not the same.
Yes, thank you.
No, I'm not confusing the two. I've already explained my thoughts on the matter upthread where I said
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The way I read it is that if a disc has its own case, i.e. something that's different than what you see when you look at the parent (a keep case vs. a slip cover in this case), then it gets its own cover art off of its case.
--------------- Nowhere does it say that in the Rules. You've inserted verbiage that doesn't exist and completely changes the meaning. Quoting the Rules: Quote:
Create each of these individual profiles in line with the standard Contribution Rules with one exception - Cover Images. If a disc, or set of discs, have their own case, use the cover images from that case. These child profiles, which are single discs, not sets of discs, do NOT have their own case. Therefore, the last part, "use the cover images from that case", does not apply and the image of the parent should be used. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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