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Main Feature (Blu-ray) or Main Feature (BD)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortkinnen
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The majority of what I have is listed as (BD) which is what I also use for Blu-ray Disc.

This falls in line with (DVD) for Digital Versatile Disc or Digital Video Disc (Which ever you think it is - both are valid now a days).
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Blu-ray is the technology. Blu-ray Disc or BD for short is the media. Not that it matters much, as long as I don't have to see BlueRay and such.


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The majority of what I have is listed as (BD) which is what I also use for Blu-ray Disc.

This falls in line with (DVD) for Digital Versatile Disc or Digital Video Disc (Which ever you think it is - both are valid now a days).


That's the way I've always viewed it also. Blu-ray as the technology, and BD as the media. We use a DVD-ROM or BD-ROM drive to read and add the discs for Profiler purposes.
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Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect]
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We use a DVD-ROM or BD-ROM drive to read and add the discs for Profiler purposes.

Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect]
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Nice try as usual bbbbb, but I could also locate infinite things on the internet to give evidence for BD and copy them here... but I'm not even going to bother for you.
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from the contribution rules.

Contribute only the following items to the main database:

"DVD Video, HD-DVD Video, and Blu-ray Video" discs (including MiniDVD): These discs contain movies, television shows, music performances and other professionally-produced and sold DVDs. No CDs, DVD-Audio discs, video games, Video CDs, or VHS titles will be accepted.


Do not enter media types (such as "Blu-Ray + DVD + Digital Copy") into the edition or title field.

BD-Live only. This feature is available only on Blu-ray profiles.

HD DVD and Blu-Ray discs

Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile. However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile.

only time I saw BD was for BD-Live.

since most on here are anal about the rules "and that is how Ken wants it" since he has used Blu-Ray in the rules, I guess it's Blu-Ray and not BD.
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only time I saw BD was for BD-Live.


BD-ROM drive? BD-R? BDInfo? Etc...

I view Blu-ray as the technology, and BD as the format, as previously mentioned.

As commented earlier, until Ken makes a ruling it's all about personal preference and there is no consensus.

The closest thing I find in the rules for this situation is "Add disc information for each disc using a DVD-ROM drive" and the Blu-ray equivalent of the drive is a BD-ROM drive. If people wish to get 100% anal about the rules, we can't even enter a Blu-ray with a BD-ROM drive and add it in the program, because a DVD-ROM drive certainly can't do the job.

In USA Profiles, people always seem to enter it as (BD), in foreign titles many also enter it as (Blu-ray). But the rules say absolutely nothing about BD/Blu-ray for Combo Disc ID descriptions. (BD) certainly isn't rejected in profile contributions.

The end comment here for me, as it's just semantics now... I will continue to enter it as (BD) in contributions, unless Ken wishes to comment or make a ruling here?
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where in the rules are these - BD-ROM drive? BD-R? BDInfo?

checked all my Blu-Rays, couldn't find a single BD listed, only Blu-Ray, Blu-Ray disc.

so if someone wanted to changed disc id discriptions to Blu-Ray, I wouldn't vote no, and really nobody else could because it isn't against the rules, and Blu-Ray in more in line with the rules then the preferences of anyone wanting it to say BD.
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only time I saw BD was for BD-Live.


BD-ROM drive? BD-R? BDInfo? Etc...

I think you missed his point.  The rules never use the term "BD", they always use the term "Blu-Ray".  I honestly have no dog in this fight, but it does make sense to use the term that is used in the rules.
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only time I saw BD was for BD-Live.


BD-ROM drive? BD-R? BDInfo? Etc...

I think you missed his point.  The rules never use the term "BD", they always use the term "Blu-Ray".  I honestly have no dog in this fight, but it does make sense to use the term that is used in the rules.


Like I said... let Ken make a ruling and I will gladly abide by his ruling. Until that time, I will continue to enter it as (BD) as I'm sure many others will. Just because "Blu-ray" appears elsewhere in the rules doesn't make up for it not appearing on how to enter it in the Disc ID description field. It's just as valid an analogy to say we have to enter a BD by only using a "DVD-ROM" drive...because that is exactly how the rules tell us to do.

I see BD as a sufficient to indicate a Blu-ray Disc in that field, just as DVD doesn't spell out Digital Versatile Disc. It's not like people don't have any clue what BD means there. There are hundreds if not thousands of Combo packs in the database that are already entered as (BD) for years now and it seems ridiculous to flip-flop those now over this. The end.
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There are hundreds if not thousands of Combo packs in the database that are already entered as (BD) for years now and it seems ridiculous to flip-flop those now over this. The end.

Ah, the eternal non-argument... Similarly, there are hundreds if not thousands of Combo packs in the database that are already entered as (Blu-ray) for years now and it seems ridiculous to flip-flop those now over this. The end.

See how wonderfully helpful that line of reasoning is? 
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As how Katatonia said... until there is an official ruling I will continue to contribute and vote for BD, no matter how the rules mentions the format they are silent on how to put it in this field. So there is no rules violation in using BD, So there is no way I am going to change how I seen it and done it for years now without a ruling from Invelos on the matter.
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There are hundreds if not thousands of Combo packs in the database that are already entered as (BD) for years now and it seems ridiculous to flip-flop those now over this. The end.

Ah, the eternal non-argument... Similarly, there are hundreds if not thousands of Combo packs in the database that are already entered as (Blu-ray) for years now and it seems ridiculous to flip-flop those now over this. The end.

See how wonderfully helpful that line of reasoning is? 


Yes, just like your reasoning of constantly contributing to a single profile multiple times right after the other over and over again...when you could easily do it in a single contribution. Approved, contribute immediately again, approved, contribute immediately again, approved, contribute immediately again, approved, contribute immediately again. I would just love to know your reasoning behind that? The end.
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What does that have to do with the issue at hand?? Sounds to me like you're running out of arguments.

Back on topic: since there is no explicit instruction in the rules, I have to go by other lines of reasoning. For me, two points are relevant:
1) As Kathy pointed out, when we go out and buy one, we ask for a blu-ray, not a BD (as opposed to a DVD);
2) Elsewhere in the rules, the term Blu-ray is used, not BD.
So I'll enter it as Blu-ray. I couldn't vote against BD though.
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So I'll enter it as Blu-ray. I couldn't vote against BD though.


Like I said repeatedly, do as you wish and I (and Addicted2DVD and others) will do as we wish also.

When Ken makes a ruling, I will abide by that. Until that times come, (BD) it remains.
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As how Katatonia said... until there is an official ruling I will continue to contribute and vote for BD, no matter how the rules mentions the format they are silent on how to put it in this field. So there is no rules violation in using BD, So there is no way I am going to change how I seen it and done it for years now without a ruling from Invelos on the matter.

As I said, I honestly don't care which method is used but, by you own admission, neither is against the rules.  If neither is against the rules, as I understand the voting rules, you really can't vote 'no' to the change.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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