Quoting dee1959jay:

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I don't think it's really clear-cut. Today I was editing a blu-ray combo release in which the blu-ray disc had no features whatsoever, but the DVD (apparently from an earlier DVD release) did, including scene access.

If I were to put everything in the main profile, people would be wrongly led to believe the blu-ray disc has scene access, while in fact it doesn't. That just feels wrong to me.

To me, the problem with your (Pete's and The Martian's) approach seems to be that not all features are created equally: some features relate to bonus contents, and then there is no problem, but others (e.g. scene access, commentary) are more like characteristics of the main feature film, and then I do see problems with your position, in case the blu-ray contains less of these "features" than the DVD.

and another realizes the problem with the rules for combo packs. They should be set up the same as a box set. Parent with all info contained within the product. Child profiles of each feature presentation/discs.

Quoting dee1959jay:

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That would definitely solve it, but it would require quite a bit of work to change the set-up of all combo releases currently in the database... 

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Then again, the same goes for the new alternate versions feature. Just started doing some profiles using this.

if it was set up as box sets in the beginning of combo packs or even double sided disc with WS on one side and P&S on the other. Wouldn't be talking about it now. It's called using a bit of Forethought.

Well we can't change the fact that as of right now it is not set up to use box set rules. Believe me I see problems with both ways of reading the rules myself. But that don't change the fact that doing it like a box set (as it is in the database now) is against the current rules.

Doing it like  box sets would entail trying to get Ken to do a rule change... which he has lined out in the rules committee forum.

Basically open a thread there... have a discussion... have a vote and then Ken has final say. Usually agreeing with the vote unless he has some reason to go another way for whatever reason.

Quoting CubbyUps:

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Quoting dee1959jay:

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I don't think it's really clear-cut. Today I was editing a blu-ray combo release in which the blu-ray disc had no features whatsoever, but the DVD (apparently from an earlier DVD release) did, including scene access.

If I were to put everything in the main profile, people would be wrongly led to believe the blu-ray disc has scene access, while in fact it doesn't. That just feels wrong to me.

To me, the problem with your (Pete's and The Martian's) approach seems to be that not all features are created equally: some features relate to bonus contents, and then there is no problem, but others (e.g. scene access, commentary) are more like characteristics of the main feature film, and then I do see problems with your position, in case the blu-ray contains less of these "features" than the DVD.

I think that this is why I would like to see combo-packs be treated as box sets with each disc that contains the movie be treated as a child profile. This would duplicate much more closely what is actually on each disc in regards to features and whatnot. As shown above, when the main profile has features that isn't on the HD media and on a dvd it makes it appear that those are on the HD media as well thus not really useful at all in telling users what is actually on the HD media.

Agreed, but that would mean that Combo Box Children are no longer 'optional' but should be mandatory.

Another example is the US Blu-ray release of the classic Roadhouse.  The DVD child includes commentary from Kevin Smith & Scott Mosier do a commentary that is only on the DVD, not the parent blu-ray.  I'm sure there are many other examples, especially using DVDs from prior releases.

It is useful for those that don't use children.  I was against children for the longest time, and understand those that don't want to deal with them.  So if combo packs were to be treated as Box sets.. would that mean a 'new' profile for the main disc have to be added?