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Region 1 - Sales disclaimer
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
Registered: March 15, 2007
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Quoting bigdaddyhorse:
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I think the cases more likely to care are those where different studios have rights in different countries. For example, Paramount would probably be mad if they knew everyone was buying the R2 disc of Friday The 13th as WB has the overseas rights, so they wouldn't be getting anything for the sales.


If, in this exemple, Paramount put a good quality DVD for "friday the 13th" for the zone 1 there will be no problem. But the zone 1 DVD is a cheap cut version with no extra. The MGM zone 2 DVD is uncut, have a commentary track by Sean Cunningham and a 20 minutes making of. No I don't own this DVD since I have the boxset (who is a big deception for the price), but if I decide to buy something else relative to this franchise it'll be the zone 2 DVD.

Paramount could cry as much as they want, since they don't respect the fan with their cheap offering.
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Just how far does the US-copyright or trade regulations carry you think?

If I were in the US as a tourist and bought some software or DVD at a regular retailer, took it back to Germany with me and after a while decide to part ways with it, you actually believe I wouldn't be entitled to and possibly subject to civil or criminal prosecution?

Please source the basis for such claims, I'm curious to know and learn.

Or, if I were a US-citizen and move abroad (permanently or for a certain period of time due to marriage, job relocation or whatever reason) and take my legally bought software and DVDs with me, and after a while decide to sell certain items for whatever reason, I could be subject to civil or criminal prosecution?

I'm also curious to know about possible grounds for claims for this case.

I WOULD think that the legal owners rights of a product bought legally (or even better: brought into commercial circulation by the holder of copyrights or rights of intellectual property) surpass the rights of those holding the copyrights. After all, it's MY DVD, MY program, I paid good money for it and should be entitled to do with as I please.

Or are there certain clauses on US retail receipts telling you what to do with your DVD or software program? If so, I'd like to see one of those as well.

Like I said, I'm always curious and willing to learn.


If you're selling your own property as a private individual, and not knock-offs of them, then no problem.  But that's a lot different than selling at the retail level, in which case you would have to abide by whatever laws are in place in that area.  And, if you expect to STAY in business, then you had better comply with any selling requirements imposed by the manufacturer/distributor or they will cut you off and make it difficult on other jobbers or wholesalers to sell to you.
John

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Quoting Darxon:
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Just how far does the US-copyright or trade regulations carry you think?

If I were in the US as a tourist and bought some software or DVD at a regular retailer, took it back to Germany with me and after a while decide to part ways with it, you actually believe I wouldn't be entitled to and possibly subject to civil or criminal prosecution?

Please source the basis for such claims, I'm curious to know and learn.

Or, if I were a US-citizen and move abroad (permanently or for a certain period of time due to marriage, job relocation or whatever reason) and take my legally bought software and DVDs with me, and after a while decide to sell certain items for whatever reason, I could be subject to civil or criminal prosecution?

I'm also curious to know about possible grounds for claims for this case.

I WOULD think that the legal owners rights of a product bought legally (or even better: brought into commercial circulation by the holder of copyrights or rights of intellectual property) surpass the rights of those holding the copyrights. After all, it's MY DVD, MY program, I paid good money for it and should be entitled to do with as I please.

Or are there certain clauses on US retail receipts telling you what to do with your DVD or software program? If so, I'd like to see one of those as well.

Like I said, I'm always curious and willing to learn.


If you're selling your own property as a private individual, and not knock-offs of them, then no problem.  But that's a lot different than selling at the retail level, in which case you would have to abide by whatever laws are in place in that area.  And, if you expect to STAY in business, then you had better comply with any selling requirements imposed by the manufacturer/distributor or they will cut you off and make it difficult on other jobbers or wholesalers to sell to you.


I agree completly. I'm tempted daily to order the R2 disc and am still on a Paramount boycott after their (mis)handling of the Friday boxset. I wouldn't have even bought that except I got lucky and found one with the Best Buy bonus disc. I've only broke my boycott for Apocalypse Now (with CC bonus disc). Anything else Paramount you see on my owned list was bought used or aquired in trade, except a few I had beforehand.
Sony is also under boycott, but not as strict. I won't skip a Resident Evil flick.
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I know you're aware but for those that aren't this is naughty as all DVDs (exempt titles aside) have to be certified by the BBFC and carry the certification and obviously the R1 imports aren't. Even if for all intents and purposes they are exactly the same as the UK release.


They have to be certified if they are being sold in this country.

And if they are being imported by a private individual then Mount Pleasant are not interested either.
Paul
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I haven't read all the thread, so I apologise if I'm repeating anything.

All countries have restrictions like this, but I my thinking was always that if the item is sold within it's home country then it's ok. When you go online and pay through their site, then the transaction is taking place within that country. Having it sent to you is simply an easier and cheaper way than fetching it yourself. Though less fun.

What leads me to these conclusions is the one time that Ebay cancelled one of my auctions because I was trading illegally. Apparently.   But it was simple enough; I reside in the the UK, but I was selling off a few of my Region 1 DVDs. Naughty, naughty. Again, with the 'apparently'. I meant no-one any harm, guv... I'd be cutting my throat! 

Meanwhile I've sold dozens of R2 titles all over the world. Ebay would have caught me by now if I was in the wrong there.
Jon
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