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| Registered: March 18, 2007 |  Posts: 55 |
| | Posted: | | | | If this makes it into the rules could we alter the wording slightly to allow vol 1 + box anime releases to be classed as Box Sets in regard to using the Slip Case case type (if they are a Slip Case style box) even though they don't include more than one case, they are meant to, and it would be a bit silly having to class them as Slip Covers. | | | | Last edited: by Blueloopstah |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | On a related note, I had a question about the Terminator 2 with the metal case. Is that not a slip cover over a keep case so thus it would be "Keep Case, Slip Cover"? Just curious. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
On a related note, I had a question about the Terminator 2 with the metal case. Is that not a slip cover over a keep case so thus it would be "Keep Case, Slip Cover"? Just curious. Well if you go with the votes on the Profile the answer is yes it is. I must admit I'm not 100% convinced, but then I'm also not using the beta as my main version of Profiler, so I'm ignoring the hundreds of case updates that are coming through. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 275 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Repter: Quote:
I think this whole Boxset/Slipcase/Slipcover is finally going to get settled  .
It makes perfect sense now (but that's perhaps because it is exactly how I've always interpreted it ).
There's still a small shortcoming for those that don't use child profiles for TV series: with an actual Slipcase, you will not know what type of cases the DVDs are actually in. But I can live with that .
BTW, in a sense I also don't see a difference between Slip Cover and Slip Case. If I understand it correctly, a slip cover that contains 3 separate keepcases would still follow the Slip Case logic. And conversely, a Slip Case that contains 1 Digipak-book would still be considered a Slip Cover. And you all think the Box Set was a mess this is just going to be a nightmare. Its not really going to matter what the rules say or how they are written this is going to be a real mess. But we now made our bed and we have to sleep in it. | | | | Last edited: by LDH |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 |  Posts: 426 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting LDH: Quote:
And you all think the Box Set was a mess this is just going to be a nightmare. Its not really going to matter what the rules say or how they are written this is going to be a real mess. But we now made our bed and we have to sleep in it. I don't think it will become a mess now, but the current wording with Slip Case vs Slip Cover is still a recipe for a lot of confusion (comparable to "Boxset" in the past). AFAIS, the only difference between both is where they are referred at in the software, which is rather unfortunate. So I just think we need better wordings. E.g. the checkbox could be called "Secondary packaging" because basically that is what it is : identify whether there is a second enclosing case/cover around the main case. It doesn't matter whether it is a Slip Case, Slip Cover, or a glass cube of 10 in³. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | I still don't see a need for the "Slip Case" case type at all. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 426 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
I still don't see a need for the "Slip Case" case type at all. What case type would you give to a cardboard box that contains 1 keepcase and 1 jewel ? |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 426 |
| | Posted: | | | | BTW, a simple example of why I think "Slip Cover" is a bad name for that checkbox. I have a DVD (I think it's Dracula 2002) of which the keepcase comes in an oversized box with lid. I think everyone would agree that this is still a Keepcase, but that we also want to check that checkbox to indicate something is sitting around the keepcase. But this is clearly not a Slip Cover. Well, it surely doesn't "slip" around the keepcase . |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Repter: Quote:
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I still don't see a need for the "Slip Case" case type at all.
What case type would you give to a cardboard box that contains 1 keepcase and 1 jewel ? Custom | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Repter: Quote:
BTW, a simple example of why I think "Slip Cover" is a bad name for that checkbox. I have a DVD (I think it's Dracula 2002) of which the keepcase comes in an oversized box with lid. I think everyone would agree that this is still a Keepcase, but that we also want to check that checkbox to indicate something is sitting around the keepcase. But this is clearly not a Slip Cover. Well, it surely doesn't "slip" around the keepcase . This would be a "Custom" case, not a keepcase. Soprano's TV Season's are similar. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 55 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Repter: Quote:
BTW, a simple example of why I think "Slip Cover" is a bad name for that checkbox. I have a DVD (I think it's Dracula 2002) of which the keepcase comes in an oversized box with lid. I think everyone would agree that this is still a Keepcase, but that we also want to check that checkbox to indicate something is sitting around the keepcase. But this is clearly not a Slip Cover. Well, it surely doesn't "slip" around the keepcase . I would think that's a custom case from the description. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 756 |
| | Posted: | | | | So if I understand correctly, the following would be designated as "Custom" with "slip cover" unchecked:
1. Batman Begins: Two-Disc Delux Edition (7-321900-732161)
This is a cardboard "slip case/cover" with one side opening, containing the movie (Batman Begins: Two-Disc Special Edition, 7-321900-732161) in a keep case, together with a comic book.
2. The Ipcress File: Two-Disc Special Edition (5-027626-237745)
This is a cardboard "slip case/cover" with one side opening, containing the movie (The Ipcress File:: 2 Disc Set, 5-027626-239947) in a keep case, together with a book (the original novel) and a poster. | | | | Chris | | | | Last edited: by Mole |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 254 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mole: Quote:
So if I understand correctly, the following would be designated as "Custom" with "slip cover" unchecked:
1. Batman Begins: Two-Disc Delux Edition (7-321900-732161)
This is a cardboard "slip case/cover" with one side opening, containing the movie (Batman Begins: Two-Disc Special Edition, 7-321900-732161) in a keep case, together with a comic book.
2. The Ipcress File: Two-Disc Special Edition (5-027626-237745)
This is a cardboard "slip case/cover" with one side opening, containing the movie (The Ipcress File:: 2 Disc Set, 5-027626-239947) in a keep case, together with a book (the original novel) and a poster. I think those would both be Keep case with Slip Cover. The books would be listed under the features section (I think). | | | | "I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world because they'd never expect it." - Jack Handey |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 426 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting Repter:
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BTW, a simple example of why I think "Slip Cover" is a bad name for that checkbox. I have a DVD (I think it's Dracula 2002) of which the keepcase comes in an oversized box with lid. I think everyone would agree that this is still a Keepcase, but that we also want to check that checkbox to indicate something is sitting around the keepcase. But this is clearly not a Slip Cover. Well, it surely doesn't "slip" around the keepcase .
This would be a "Custom" case, not a keepcase.
Soprano's TV Season's are similar. I really don't see why a Keepcase inside a sleeve remains a Keepcase, but a Keepcase inside a box which is just a little larger, would then be Custom. In both cases, the DVD just sits in a Keepcase as pure a keepcase can be. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 756 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Broven: Quote:
Quoting Mole:
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So if I understand correctly, the following would be designated as "Custom" with "slip cover" unchecked:
1. Batman Begins: Two-Disc Delux Edition (7-321900-732161)
This is a cardboard "slip case/cover" with one side opening, containing the movie (Batman Begins: Two-Disc Special Edition, 7-321900-732161) in a keep case, together with a comic book.
2. The Ipcress File: Two-Disc Special Edition (5-027626-237745)
This is a cardboard "slip case/cover" with one side opening, containing the movie (The Ipcress File:: 2 Disc Set, 5-027626-239947) in a keep case, together with a book (the original novel) and a poster.
I think those would both be Keep case with Slip Cover. The books would be listed under the features section (I think). Currently in the online, the Batman one is "Custom" and the Ipcress is "Keep Case". Both are essentially an oversize slip case/cover containing a keep case and a book. Hence my question. I think I misinterpreted Hal's definition (about five posts ago) and I'm comfortable with the "Keep case + Slip Cover " approach for both of these. | | | | Chris | | | | Last edited: by Mole |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mole: Quote:
So if I understand correctly, the following would be designated as "Custom" with "slip cover" unchecked:
1. Batman Begins: Two-Disc Delux Edition (7-321900-732161)
This is a cardboard "slip case/cover" with one side opening, containing the movie (Batman Begins: Two-Disc Special Edition, 7-321900-732161) in a keep case, together with a comic book.
2. The Ipcress File: Two-Disc Special Edition (5-027626-237745)
This is a cardboard "slip case/cover" with one side opening, containing the movie (The Ipcress File:: 2 Disc Set, 5-027626-239947) in a keep case, together with a book (the original novel) and a poster. IMO, these are case type = keepcase,; slip cover checked. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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