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replace all of your light bulbs, yeah they cost more in the beginning, but they last 10 years and use 70% less energy

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Rifter: you win the "let us destroy the world if we want, when we want!" prize. Congratulations.

Oh, OK, time to blame the US for all that's wrong in the world.

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it would've ruined OUR economy while letting China, Russia, and all the other BIG polluters off the hook.

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Comparing total greenhouse gas emissions in 2004 to 1990 levels, the US emissions were up by 16%,[91] with irregular fluctuations from one year to another but a general trend to increase.[92] At the same time, the EU group of 23 (EU-23) Nations had reduced their emissions by 5%.[93] In addition, the EU-15 group of nations (a large subset of EU-23) reduced their emissions by 0.8% between 1990 and 2004, while emission rose 2.5% from 1999 to 2004. Part of the increases for some of the European Union countries are still in line with the treaty, being part of the cluster of countries implementation (see objectives in the list above).

As of year-end 2006, the United Kingdom and Sweden were the only EU countries on pace to meet their Kyoto emissions commitments by 2010. While UN statistics indicate that, as a group, the 36 Kyoto signatory countries can meet the 5% reduction target by 2012, most of the progress in greenhouse gas reduction has come from the stark decline in Eastern European countries' emissions after the fall of communism in the 1990s.[94]

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Rifter: you win the "let us destroy the world if we want, when we want!" prize. Congratulations.

Oh, OK, time to blame the US for all that's wrong in the world.

I don't think his post was targeting the US, I think it was targeting your post.

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What makes this whole thing even worse, especially in the US, is that some of us were sounding the alarm about the damn tree-hugging, Bambi-loving, whacko environmentalists 30 years ago when the last refinery was built.  That's why we don't just import crude oil, we also import refined gasoline.

There is more oil today that we know about in the ground than there was back when gas was only $.40 a gallon.  We've got tankers sitting 5 deep off shore waiting to unload because there isn't enough storage capacity.  Why?  The tank farms can't accept more raw crude because there aren't enough refineries to process the stuff they've already got bunikered.

Then, for icing on the cake, we can't drill in the Arctic, off the coasts of California or Florida, despite the fact that there has never been a major spill incident.  In addition, President Clinton fixed it so we can't mine the largest deposit of sweet coal in the world, which would provide us with 200 years worth of home grown energy, when he made the area into a wilderness preserve.

Liberals and liberalism will destroy this country (god help us if Obama is elected), and as we go, so goes the world.

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This is the United States, we have been to the moon, given the challenge we can do anything, even moderate the alleged global warming.