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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | To go over it again, it only existed with the hyphen in a NON-CONTRIBUTABLE role.
You don't use that because the rules tell you to enter them exactly as credited. The exception is "Exception: If the credit information is entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead."
Since this is one of the names where the capitalisation may not be solely the first character we need to determine how it should be capitalised.
It really couldn't be simpler. |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
To go over it again, it only existed with the hyphen in a NON-CONTRIBUTABLE role.
You mean that you doubt that the Jean Claude Forest in front credits might be a different person than the Jean-Claude Forest in end credits ?? It's amazing to see the energy put in promoting, against CLT results, data that everybody knows as incorrect, and accept some DiLascio about an actor (or an actress?) for whom nobody knows even the given name... What is documentation for ??? Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
You don't use that because the rules tell you to enter them exactly as credited.
That's why I proposed Jean-Claude Forest (credited as Jean Claude Forest), which was correct according to the CLT But once again, my purpose is not to discuss one more time about that case, but show the inconsistency of some users' attitude about interpreting on screen data. | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | No one at all is suggesting that it's a different person. However, in his CONTRIBUTABLE role that is how he is credited. The role that CAN NOT BE CONTRIBUTED doesn't factor into the equation at all. Quote:
That's why I proposed Jean-Claude Forest (credited as Jean Claude Forest), which was correct according to the CLT At this time both variants have 100% identical figures although I suspect that some may not be entered correctly. There is no inconsitency if you want to follow the rules which most users are doing. It may be incosistent to how you want to do it but it's not incosistent per the rules. If you would like to suggest changing the rules in the Rules Committee, feel free to post there. Edit: That's my last word on the subject in a thread that isn't related. | | | | Last edited: by Ardos |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Needless to say, I agree with Forget 100% on this...including it being my last word on the subject. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: November 24, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,279 |
| | | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is the page of one Mr. Dilascio. As the text was written by Mr. Dilascio himself, I think that we can trust the fact that he uses Dilascio. This example shows that without documentation, nobody can argue that DiLascio is correct. The fact that some users fight so hard to introduce in the database data that they know to be incorrect, or data that they don't know if it is correct, explains clearly why the online is a mess. | | | | Images from movies |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | I may have missed it, but who argued that DiLascio was correct? I know I didn't.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Converting 'DILASCIO' into 'DiLascio' is not inventing data. Interpreting the data, yes. Inventing it, no. Since the rules require us to interpret the data, I prefer to interpret it correctly. | | | | Images from movies |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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To go over it again, it only existed with the hyphen in a NON-CONTRIBUTABLE role.
You mean that you doubt that the Jean Claude Forest in front credits might be a different person than the Jean-Claude Forest in end credits ??
It's amazing to see the energy put in promoting, against CLT results, data that everybody knows as incorrect, and accept some DiLascio about an actor (or an actress?) for whom nobody knows even the given name... What is documentation for ???
Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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You don't use that because the rules tell you to enter them exactly as credited.
That's why I proposed Jean-Claude Forest (credited as Jean Claude Forest), which was correct according to the CLT
But once again, my purpose is not to discuss one more time about that case, but show the inconsistency of some users' attitude about interpreting on screen data. No he means he understands the Rules. Surfeur your obvious agenda and constant desire toundermine the Rules and others only results in the destruction of your own credibility. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Converting 'DILASCIO' into 'DiLascio' is not inventing data. Interpreting the data, yes. Inventing it, no. Since the rules require us to interpret the data, I prefer to interpret it correctly. On this one surfeur is correct, my dear friend. DiLascio would not, as I explained earlier, be per the Rules , it would an ASSUMPTION , not unreasonable assumption, but not an assumption that should not be made. Once again I have to retreat to my own life, when I was in elementary i had a Principal in elementary school named .Mr. Deleo, you andothers might assume, reasonably assume that the name if you saw a filmed credit of DELEO would be DeLeo, simply based on the De, but that assumption would be dead wrong. Per the Book the name for should be Dilascio, using standard cap rules, DiLascio is an assumption, a reasonable one but an assumption nonetheless, and without further documentation should NOT be entered into the database.<shrugs> Sorry amigo Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Converting 'DILASCIO' into 'DiLascio' is not inventing data. Interpreting the data, yes. Inventing it, no. Since the rules require us to interpret the data, I prefer to interpret it correctly. Now this is just sad. Instead of reading what I actually wrote, in the context of this entire thread, you cherry picked a section of a post to make it look like I said something I didn't.  I didn't say that 'DiLascio' was correct, I said that I prefered to enter the data correctly. Not even close to being the same thing. As I said in my first post, "If I had the actual name, I would do some research to see how he/she capitalizes it." | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Woola: Quote:
On this one surfeur is correct, my dear friend. DiLascio would not, as I explained earlier, be per the Rules , it would an ASSUMPTION , not unreasonable assumption, but not an assumption that should not be made.
Once again I have to retreat to my own life, when I was in elementary i had a Principal in elementary school named .Mr. Deleo, you andothers might assume, reasonably assume that the name if you saw a filmed credit of DELEO would be DeLeo, simply based on the De, but that assumption would be dead wrong. Per the Book the name for
Sorry amigo
Skip Please don't presume to tell me what I might assume. As I said in my first post, "If I had the actual name, I would do some research to see how he/she capitalizes it." If I had known that Principal, I would have asked him. Since I don't, and didn't, I will use my best judgement. Your judgement may be different but that doesn't make mine wrong. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting surfeur51:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Converting 'DILASCIO' into 'DiLascio' is not inventing data. Interpreting the data, yes. Inventing it, no. Since the rules require us to interpret the data, I prefer to interpret it correctly.
Now this is just sad. Instead of reading what I actually wrote, in the context of this entire thread, you cherry picked a section of a post to make it look like I said something I didn't.
I didn't say that 'DiLascio' was correct, I said that I prefered to enter the data correctly. Not even close to being the same thing. As I said in my first post, "If I had the actual name, I would do some research to see how he/she capitalizes it." Sorry, I've read this from the beginning, and from the beginning you advocate DiLascio. You say that you prefer to enter the data correctly, and for this you chose DiLascio, not Dilascio. You can send as much as you want, you just show once more your total inconsistency in managing correct data. End of discussion for me, I'm fed up by hypocrisy. | | | | Images from movies |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Too harsh, surfeur. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | This thread is only three pages. I'm completely disappointed in you guys.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm pretty certain we're talking about Diane DiLascio?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0226721/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_DiLascio
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Diane_DiLascio
http://pipl.com/directory/people/Diane/DiLascio
http://www.tvrage.com/person/id-13970
http://www.tvguide.com/celebrities/diane-dilascio/147295
http://www.popstar.com/Diane_DiLascio/
http://www.flixster.com/actor/diane-dilascio |
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