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Imho Taro does the best what we can do in this case. I think this is matching to the rules and I think everyone would be cool with this. 

I most certainly am not. As pointed out before: this is simply about the way DVD Profiler formats titles. If the rules cause us to insert a colon when it's not seen on the cover, then that same rule also causes us to insert a colon into the original title when it's not seen in the credits. There's no difference. Surely you're not saying that none of the title rules apply to the "original title" field? Because by that reasoning, the capitalization rules wouldn't apply to the "original title" field either... Should I start entering any titles that appear in ALL-CAPS in the credits into the "original title" field as such, because that rule that addresses capitalization apparently only applies to the "title" field, not to "original title"? I hope not... But why would you suddenly exclude one rule, and apply the other?

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Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break.

does that really make you think that the original title would be "Star Trek III The Search for Spock"? Shall I try contributing that and see what happens? Yet that's exactly what you're advocating: adding "Terminator Salvation" as original title to "Terminator: Salvation" is the exact same thing... If we do this here, we're going to have to add/change original titles for virtually EVERY title with an episode descriptor. Plus, as I described above, there are the horrendous ramifications of the fact that then apparently none of the other title rules apply to the "original title" field either... 

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Quoting VirusPil:

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Imho Taro does the best what we can do in this case. I think this is matching to the rules and I think everyone would be cool with this. 

I most certainly am not. As pointed out before: this is simply about the way DVD Profiler formats titles. If the rules cause us to insert a colon when it's not seen on the cover, then that same rule also causes us to insert a colon into the original title when it's not seen in the credits. There's no difference. Surely you're not saying that none of the title rules apply to the "original title" field? Because by that reasoning, the capitalization rules wouldn't apply to the "original title" field either... Should I start entering any titles that appear in ALL-CAPS in the credits into the "original title" field as such, because that rule that addresses capitalization apparently only applies to the "title" field, not to "original title"? I hope not... But why would you suddenly exclude one rule, and apply the other?

So when the rules on titles say:

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Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break.

does that really make you think that the original title would be "Star Trek III The Search for Spock"? Shall I try contributing that and see what happens? Yet that's exactly what you're advocating: adding "Terminator Salvation" as original title to "Terminator: Salvation" is the exact same thing... If we do this here, we're going to have to add/change original titles for virtually EVERY title with an episode descriptor. Plus, as I described above, there are the horrendous ramifications of the fact that then apparently none of the other title rules apply to the "original title" field either... 

Not bad.    Sounds logical.
Never said the rules are perfect, but if we would make it like you wrote, there would be everytime argueing if it's a episode descripter or not.
But why should I argue, there are so much different titles according to the different interpretations of the rules in database, but who matters. 
I'm not the one who's fighting to get his thinking in all other minds. 

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does that really make you think that the original title would be "Star Trek III The Search for Spock"?

If it would be credited like this, I would. But if I remember right, it's written in the credit block with ":".

The Original Title comes from the actual film credits, not the credit block.

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Use the title from the film's credits.

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does that really make you think that the original title would be "Star Trek III The Search for Spock"?

If it would be credited like this, I would. But if I remember right, it's written in the credit block with ":".

The Original Title comes from the actual film credits, not the credit block.

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Use the title from the film's credits.

Where's the difference to Batman Begins? Or Superman Reborn? Or Underworld Evolution? All parts of a series, all written without a colon.
Just because it is or could be a sentance? 

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Exactly... the only time the credit block is used is with Possessives.

Hmm, we use it for possessives if we are not sure? But if we're not sure with a title without possessives we won't? 
But in original title we use also the normal capitalization rules. Which are also in another part of the rules written, like the one above?

This is like we always do in many ways, we do what we think is right! 

Yes... we are doing what we think is right... PER THE RULES as Tim outlined.

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Where's the difference to Batman Begins? Or Superman Reborn? Or Underworld Evolution? All parts of a series, all written without a colon.
Just because it is or could be a sentance? 

Please look at the cover for "Batman Begins".

It is on a single line and the font is the same for both words.

I cannot find any DVD called "Superman Reborn".

"Underworld: Evolution" would be correct.

Sorry, Superman Reborn was wrong, it's Superman Returns.

Written in two lines and still without colon.

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Please look at the cover for "Batman Begins".

It is on a single line and the font is the same for both words.

Do I now also have to take the front cover to find out the right original title?

In case of Terminator Salvation it's written in the film (credits) "Terminator Salvation" in one line in same font.