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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | While I don't like it, it is still covered by the rule. We have to use the original release date. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Right Martian... which was my point.
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Terry...
At the very end of the post you asked "Would the production dates for both these films be the original years or the re release dates ??"...and I was just supplying that answer as it was covered in the rules so there is no question on how to handle it. As it is already covered in the rules. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Correct, Pete. POints can be made for all kinds of answers on this issue. As I recall we had quite a discussion on this, I believe Star Wars was our model. I think the Rule was decided based on the fact that movies had not been fundamentally changed for the Special Editions, the performances of the actors had not been changed, it was still the same films that were released in 1978, but technology had allowed for the visuals to be improved, so it was decided to stay with the Original Production Year for such films that have been re-released. In these cases copyright dates are not indicative of very much, a copyright has to be renewed on a regular basis to retain ownership, I think it's 17 years, if it is not renewed then the film falls into the public domain (not a good place).
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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote:
Correct, Pete. POints can be made for all kinds of answers on this issue. As I recall we had quite a discussion on this, I believe Star Wars was our model. I think the Rule was decided based on the fact that movies had not been fundamentally changed for the Special Editions, the performances of the actors had not been changed, it was still the same films that were released in 1978, but technology had allowed for the visuals to be improved, so it was decided to stay with the Original Production Year for such films that have been re-released. In these cases copyright dates are not indicative of very much, a copyright has to be renewed on a regular basis to retain ownership, I think it's 17 years, if it is not renewed then the film falls into the public domain (not a good place).
Skip The films had changed. That's why i treasure my limited editions of the original theatrical releases. |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 599 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
*cough*1977*cough* Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote:
I have forgotten far more about database design and film than you are EVER going to learn.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
The films had changed. That's why i treasure my limited editions of the original theatrical releases. No doubt, but the rule is clear. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: April 14, 2007 | | Posts: 415 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
The films had changed. That's why i treasure my limited editions of the original theatrical releases. Just ask Lucas to include the original release on the Blu-ray versions  |
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| Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting jmbox: Quote:
Quoting FilmAlba:
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The films had changed. That's why i treasure my limited editions of the original theatrical releases.
Just ask Lucas to include the original release on the Blu-ray versions Flying cow outside my window  |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Perhaps a dump question, but if a movie is shown on a film festival and after that at theatres. What is in such case the theatrical release = production year? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | A film festival is not considered a theatrical release. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
A film festival is not considered a theatrical release. Really, according to which definition? And what if it was only released at film festivals? | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Then you would use the release to DVD as the production yearor perhaps the Copyright year,
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | So say for example a movie was shown at festivals in 2005 and then a DVD came out in 2008 I'm going to use 2008 as the production year? Doesn't sound right to me. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | In that instance i would probably use the copyright date and explain it in the notes.
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