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Parsing: Robin Wright Penn |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Martian: I have even talked about the beowulf credit, there appears to be a discrepancy in Region/Version. I don't know. As for being a texan, I know the Texans are a strange lot , after all they have the Cowboys (LOSERS) but, I know of unusual naming customs or laws that apply to Texas. Further, she was born in Texas, but resides in California (which is even weirder than Texas) , Santa Barbara, i think. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 810 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: ... I do have a question for some users to check for me since nine brought it up. We may have a version/locality problem with the film credits. In MY copy of Beowulf 097361323145, my data (if it's not screwed up) shows a credit of Robin Wright Penn NOT Robin Wright-Penn and I can't check it, since it is in storage. Would someone be so kind as to check it for me, I suspect that my data is correct because I also show a listing for Sharisse Baker-Bernard, but i can't be sure. I just checked my copy (I have the same version/UPC). It shows Robin Wright-Penn in the full cast listing. pdf | | | Paul Francis San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting pdf256: Quote: Quoting Dr Pavlov:
Quote: ... I do have a question for some users to check for me since nine brought it up. We may have a version/locality problem with the film credits. In MY copy of Beowulf 097361323145, my data (if it's not screwed up) shows a credit of Robin Wright Penn NOT Robin Wright-Penn and I can't check it, since it is in storage. Would someone be so kind as to check it for me, I suspect that my data is correct because I also show a listing for Sharisse Baker-Bernard, but i can't be sure. I just checked my copy (I have the same version/UPC). It shows Robin Wright-Penn in the full cast listing.
pdf You saying that has reminded me. I'm pretty sure that for the UK Blu-ray at least, when the names are just flashed on screen it's without the hyphen & when the main list is shown it's with. I don't have my copy to hand to check though. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 810 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: Martian:
I have even talked about the beowulf credit, there appears to be a discrepancy in Region/Version. ...
Skip No, your data is wrong. pdf | | | Paul Francis San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting Dr Pavlov:
Quote: Frankly this is a discussion which I don.t understand. There's not much to understand, and it's not a "discussion" either. I'm just observing that it doesn't work. Except maybe in one or two unique cases, the community just can't ever seem to agree on what the parsing for any given name should be. And then there's the huge majority of users that doesn't even visit the forums. As it is, people generally just do as they see fit, meaning that virtually every name consisting of more than two parts (excluding suffixes, prefixes and stage names) has double, non-linking entries in the database. Unless something changes, I don't see that improving at all. There really isn't much to understand about that.
This is extremely annoying, and it actually puts people off from contributing. How? Practical example from today: I have sound editor Karen Baker Landers parsed as K/B/L. I bought a new DVD and the profile I downloaded for it, had her listed as K//B L. I wanted to contribute some much-needed crew corrections to this profile, but I can only get those through without getting no-votes on the "un-documented" change to K/B/L. So I'm now forced to change my K/B/L entry to K//B L for contributing purposes, and then change it back so to cause the same problem for my other profiles with her in it. Again: that's extremely annoying, and once there are five entries like this in a single profile, I assure you that it quickly becomes very attractive to just not bother with the contribution anymore. And this is not rare - I run into this about every other day. There's a limit to the ordeal people will go through to submit some cast/crew additions to a profile - there is for me, at least. I really couldn't care less whether it's K/B/L or K//B L - I'm happy to go either way, as long as everybody does the same, and I don't have to go through this ordeal every time. Surely I shouldn't have to go contacting people's agents every time I encounter a name consisting of more than two parts? While I agree with much of your post, Tiim. I would argue that the reason that some people have been put off from Contributiiong is that there is no start point which users are willing to accept, everybody wants to use their particular cultural standard which is guaranteed to create a MESS and it is not fixable. It is the one of many reasons why it is cold day somewhere when you will see something Contributed by me. It's not fun anymore, i see users making all sorts of bizarre changes which needto be fixed every day, once in awhile I will get annoyed enough to fix one,it just has become no fun and not worth the trouble. Ken take note. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting pdf256: Quote: Quoting Dr Pavlov:
Quote: Martian:
I have even talked about the beowulf credit, there appears to be a discrepancy in Region/Version. ...
Skip No, your data is wrong.
pdf You checked it Paul? Thank you, fixing now. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 810 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote: Quoting pdf256:
Quote: Quoting Dr Pavlov:
Quote: ... I do have a question for some users to check for me since nine brought it up. We may have a version/locality problem with the film credits. In MY copy of Beowulf 097361323145, my data (if it's not screwed up) shows a credit of Robin Wright Penn NOT Robin Wright-Penn and I can't check it, since it is in storage. Would someone be so kind as to check it for me, I suspect that my data is correct because I also show a listing for Sharisse Baker-Bernard, but i can't be sure. I just checked my copy (I have the same version/UPC). It shows Robin Wright-Penn in the full cast listing.
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You saying that has reminded me. I'm pretty sure that for the UK Blu-ray at least, when the names are just flashed on screen it's without the hyphen & when the main list is shown it's with. I don't have my copy to hand to check though. It is the same in the R1 version, but we here in profiler land only use the 'standard cast' listing (just ask skip/dr. pavlov/jubal/woola). pdf | | | Paul Francis San Juan Capistrano, CA, USA |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | LOL, Paul is right.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: Further, she was born in Texas, but resides in California (which is even weirder than Texas) , Santa Barbara, i think. So do I...though not in Santa Barbara. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | My sympathies, my friend. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting pdf256: Quote: Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
Quote: Quoting pdf256:
Quote: Quoting Dr Pavlov:
Quote: ... I do have a question for some users to check for me since nine brought it up. We may have a version/locality problem with the film credits. In MY copy of Beowulf 097361323145, my data (if it's not screwed up) shows a credit of Robin Wright Penn NOT Robin Wright-Penn and I can't check it, since it is in storage. Would someone be so kind as to check it for me, I suspect that my data is correct because I also show a listing for Sharisse Baker-Bernard, but i can't be sure. I just checked my copy (I have the same version/UPC). It shows Robin Wright-Penn in the full cast listing.
pdf
You saying that has reminded me. I'm pretty sure that for the UK Blu-ray at least, when the names are just flashed on screen it's without the hyphen & when the main list is shown it's with. I don't have my copy to hand to check though. It is the same in the R1 version, but we here in profiler land only use the 'standard cast' listing (just ask skip/dr. pavlov/jubal/woola).
pdf Oh yes I know that. It's possible that's where the confusion came in though for this title. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | I think I will wait and see if Sam can get a response. I have dug and dug and dug some more and I can't find a substantive conclusion. Good luck, Sam.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: I think I will wait and see if Sam can get a response. I have dug and dug and dug some more and I can't find a substantive conclusion. Good luck, Sam.
Skip IMDB opps heresy |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote: Quoting Dr Pavlov:
Quote: I think I will wait and see if Sam can get a response. I have dug and dug and dug some more and I can't find a substantive conclusion. Good luck, Sam.
Skip
IMDB opps heresy Huh< I thought Sam was sending an e-mail to her agent or something.<scratching head> Yep, that;s what he said all right. So where does IMDb come into that. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| Registered: March 10, 2009 | Posts: 2,248 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: Quoting FilmAlba:
Quote: Quoting Dr Pavlov:
Quote: I think I will wait and see if Sam can get a response. I have dug and dug and dug some more and I can't find a substantive conclusion. Good luck, Sam.
Skip
IMDB opps heresy Huh< I thought Sam was sending an e-mail to her agent or something.<scratching head> Yep, that;s what he said all right. So where does IMDb come into that.
Skip Im saying what a sane world we would live in if we could just accept IMDB as a source. |
| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: Your guessing, Ace. You have no support. Ican provide as much dat that indicates it's 1/2/3. if you can provide doc, then do so, don't guess at it.
Skip I'm not guessing. Her birth name was Robin Virginia Gayle Wright and her parents both had the last name Wright. This is how we can be certain that Wright is, in fact a surname. If you are claiming she changed it to a middle name, then you need to provide evidence of this. |
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