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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | T!M really shouldn't be criticized if he doesn't use the CLT notes, as they are not a requirement. If people choose to put the numbers in their notes, fine, but if they don't, that's fine too. IIRC, Ken has stated that you don't need to put them in the notes, so if T!M (or anyone) chooses not too, he is doing nothing wrong.
If I don't trust someone's notes regarding the CLT, it takes a second for me to double check them (it's very rare when I don't trust the submitter, anyway). If they don't want to put the results in the notes, who really cares, they aren't required to. It's a bonus if they do.
Skip, I certainly hope you are not voting at all on profiles that don't have CLT results, because if the data is correct, any vote other than a yes is an abuse of the system IMO. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
I consider failure to list CLT results to be a violation of The Rules, as claiming that you did is neither complete nor are they useful notes. If you won't i will ALWAYS vote NO. Such lame documentation is simply unacceptable when the data is so available and easy to enter.
Skip How is this not a violation of the rules when Ken has said that posting the CLT results is not necessary? | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. | | | | Last edited: by Alien Redrum |
|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
I consider failure to list CLT results to be a violation of The Rules And you know full well that you are wrong, that it is not required, and that your repeated no-votes are invalid.  (I thought I'd use some bold, too) | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,774 |
| | Posted: | | | | EDIT: Not neccessary after Ken has spoken. | | | | Last edited: by SpaceFreakMicha |
| | Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | We are not going to continue to hash this out. If a user chooses to submit without specific CLT results, they may do so and their contribution may still be accepted depending on a variety of factors, including contribution history.
Voting users may choose to request further details and a "No" vote if the details aren't provided is not an abuse of the voting system.
Further discussion on this will only lead to argument. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Forum Moderator: Removed
This post was likely typed before the prior post was posted so will avoid admin action other than the removal. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Forum Moderator |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Forum Moderator: Removed
Please cease this discussion as it will only lead to argument. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Forum Moderator |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks Ken | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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I consider failure to list CLT results to be a violation of The Rules
And you know full well that you are wrong, that it is not required, and that your repeated no-votes are invalid.
(I thought I'd use some bold, too) Invalid to you, maybe, Tim, NOT to me. As I said I find them insulting and offensive and i am disappointed that Ken actually is willing to support notes which are not complete and useful, let alone informative. But it is his choice and he has allowed me mine. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
We are not going to continue to hash this out. If a user chooses to submit without specific CLT results, they may do so and their contribution may still be accepted depending on a variety of factors, including contribution history.
Voting users may choose to request further details and a "No" vote if the details aren't provided is not an abuse of the voting system.
Further discussion on this will only lead to argument. Makes me glad I chose to skip to the last page. Thanks Ken.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
We are not going to continue to hash this out. If a user chooses to submit without specific CLT results, they may do so and their contribution may still be accepted depending on a variety of factors, including contribution history.
Voting users may choose to request further details and a "No" vote if the details aren't provided is not an abuse of the voting system.
Further discussion on this will only lead to argument. Sorry Ken, I'm a little confused by this. On one hand you say that people don't have to provide the CLT figures but on the other hand, people can vote "No". This seems a little contradictory to me. |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for stepping in so quick, Ken. There are things I don't understand, but I thank you for making a presence regardless*. *That sounds jerky, but not intended as such. I don't understand part of your decision, but rather than dwell on it, I'll work it out or send you a PM.  *edit* Orrrrrrrrr I'll just wait and see how forget's question is answered, as that's the question I had.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. | | | | Last edited: by Alien Redrum |
| | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
We are not going to continue to hash this out. If a user chooses to submit without specific CLT results, they may do so and their contribution may still be accepted depending on a variety of factors, including contribution history.
Voting users may choose to request further details and a "No" vote if the details aren't provided is not an abuse of the voting system.
Further discussion on this will only lead to argument. Thanks Ken. | | | | Cor |
| | Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote:
Kind of hard to do when you don't have the disc in your hand in the first place and only have them in your ordered/wishlist tag just to use the CLT for all the locality... I'm not really fond of the idea of people contributing profile updates, or voting on such updates, if they don't actually own the item being contributed. I think it's a bit of an abuse of the system to have lots of DVDs only in your wishlist and contribute (or vote on) them, as if you knew what was and what was not correct about such contributions. --------------- |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, Alien I would ask a similar question. How is" I checked the CLT", complete and useful notes as spelled out in the Rules. it is absolutely not to me. To me it is no form of documentation at all. But i accept Ken's comment as is.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Quoting AESP_pres:
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Kind of hard to do when you don't have the disc in your hand in the first place and only have them in your ordered/wishlist tag just to use the CLT for all the locality...
I'm not really fond of the idea of people contributing profile updates, or voting on such updates, if they don't actually own the item being contributed. I think it's a bit of an abuse of the system to have lots of DVDs only in your wishlist and contribute (or vote on) them, as if you knew what was and what was not correct about such contributions.
--------------- Oh, I absolutely disagree, there are many parts of any given Contribution which are easy to verify without having the disc in hand. Take for example the overview, for just one example. One may not be able to verify Cast/Crew data, but one can certainly ask questions and challenge undocumented Common name usage or whther or not NameA=NameB (another pet peeve). Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
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