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Watchmen: Collector's Edition: Box set?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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I doubt the consensus has changed.  What I have noticed, more often than not, is that quite a few people seem to just be voting 'yes' regardless of the change.  I am not saying that this is the what is happening here, but it is possible.

At this point, I simply lock my profiles and accept almost nothing from the on-line.
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From the box:
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THIS 4-DISC COLLECTOR'S SET WITH SPECIAL LENTICULAR PACKAGING INCLUDES:


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4-DISC COLLECTOR'S SET


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COLLECTOR'S SET


How is this not a box set?
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How is this not a box set?

Asked, and answered, on the first page.  You mileage, of course, may vary.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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Then there are the Box Set Rules:

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"Box Sets" Containing More Than One Film
The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film. The main examples are:

  • Sets where each film is packaged individually, and held together in a package of some kind.

  • Sets where each film is on a separate disc, but not individually packaged. This includes gatefold Digipaks and 2-Disc sets in normal DVD cases.

  • Sets containing 2 films, one on each side of Dual-Sided DVD


  • DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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    And then there are the Bonus Feature Film Rules:

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    The term "Bonus Feature Film" is used to define any feature film that is included as part of the bonus material for a single release. These are not the same as Double Features or Anthology Collections which are a collection of films grouped together which require the "Box Set" contribution rules. Do not confuse "Bonus Feature Films" with "Any video documentary material regarding the film, or those associated with it." Those are Featurettes. Some examples of Bonus Feature Films are:

    •Previous movie versions, example "Ben-Hur: Four-Disc Collector's Edition" which includes the 1925 version.
    •Companion movie bonuses, example "Season of the Witch" which includes "There's Always Vanilla" from the same director.

    In my opinion, because this is not being sold as a multi-movie set, but a multi-disc set, that the motion comic is a bonus feature film.  The title for this set is, except for the fact that it uses limited instead of collector's, is the same as the title used in the example.
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    There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
    Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
    The Centauri learned this lesson once.
    We will teach it to them again.
    Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
    - Citizen G'Kar
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    Definitely agree with the Martian here.
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    So my attempt to change it back to a movie with bonuses is being voted down 3-1 on the profile, which being overwhelmingly supported on the board.
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    I bought it because it was, in my opinion, a multi-feature set.
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    I bought it because it was, in my opinion, a multi-feature set.

    That doesn't change the fact that it wasn't sold or marketed as a multi-feature set.
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    There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
    Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
    The Centauri learned this lesson once.
    We will teach it to them again.
    Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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    I bought it because it was, in my opinion, a multi-feature set.


    Until it's written on the box that the disc is a "bonus" feature or a "bonus" film, I can't see it being anything else than a multi-feature set.
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    I bought it because it was, in my opinion, a multi-feature set.


    Until it's written on the box that the disc is a "bonus" feature or a "bonus" film, I can't see it being anything else than a multi-feature set.


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    I bought it because it was, in my opinion, a multi-feature set.


    Until it's written on the box that the disc is a "bonus" feature or a "bonus" film, I can't see it being anything else than a multi-feature set.

    Ben-Hur: Four-Disc Collector's Edition, which is mentioned in the Bonus Feature Film rule does not have either of those written on the box so, while you can't see it, the fact remains that the rules can and do.
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    There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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    The Centauri learned this lesson once.
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    Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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    Quoting TheMadMartian:
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    I bought it because it was, in my opinion, a multi-feature set.


    Until it's written on the box that the disc is a "bonus" feature or a "bonus" film, I can't see it being anything else than a multi-feature set.

    Ben-Hur: Four-Disc Collector's Edition, which is mentioned in the Bonus Feature Film rule does not have either of those written on the box so, while you can't see it, the fact remains that the rules can and do.


    Except for the front cover, which clearly identifies release as "William Wyler's presentation of Ben-Hur."
    But you know, aside from that, there's nothing to indicate the 1925 feature is a "Bonus Film"

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    Quoting Leiterfluid:
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    I bought it because it was, in my opinion, a multi-feature set.


    Until it's written on the box that the disc is a "bonus" feature or a "bonus" film, I can't see it being anything else than a multi-feature set.

    Ben-Hur: Four-Disc Collector's Edition, which is mentioned in the Bonus Feature Film rule does not have either of those written on the box so, while you can't see it, the fact remains that the rules can and do.


    Except for the front cover, which clearly identifies release as "William Wyler's presentation of Ben-Hur."
    But you know, aside from that, there's nothing to indicate the 1925 feature is a "Bonus Film"


    What, exactly, does that have to do with what I wrote?  What is written on the front cover doesn't change the fact that it is not written on the box, anywhere, that the 1929 version is a "bonus" feature or a "bonus" film.

    As an aside, you're kinda making my point.  It is clear, from the cover of the Ben Hur release, that the 1929 version is a bonus feature film.  It is also clear, because of the artwork on the front cover, that Watchmen is the movie with the motion comic as a bonus...no need for them to be labeled as such. 
    No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
    There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
    Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
    The Centauri learned this lesson once.
    We will teach it to them again.
    Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
    - Citizen G'Kar
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    It is also clear, because of the artwork on the front cover, that Watchmen is the movie with the motion comic as a bonus...no need for them to be labeled as such


    Actually, if you want to use the cover art as a de-facto tie-breaker, I will point out that the lenticular cover shows both the live-action characters from the ultimate cut film, and the drawn characters from the motion comic feature, which supports MY argument for a box-set.
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    Quoting Leiterfluid:
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    It is also clear, because of the artwork on the front cover, that Watchmen is the movie with the motion comic as a bonus...no need for them to be labeled as such


    Actually, if you want to use the cover art as a de-facto tie-breaker, I will point out that the lenticular cover shows both the live-action characters from the ultimate cut film, and the drawn characters from the motion comic feature, which supports MY argument for a box-set.


    This was my argument, originally. Unlike Ben Hur, which clearly designates one version as the main feature, Watchmen Collector's Edition does not. The front cover has pictures of both the comic and movie versions of the characters and the text "4-disc set and graphic novel," which doesn't specific mention the motion comic or movie. THe back cover lists the movie first, but lists the motion comic in the same size and typeface. I think it's given equally billing with the movie on the packaging.
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