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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGrendell
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I agree, I had to get a new PCIE Firewire card for the new mobo, and Win 7 picked it straight up. No issues.


What might have confused him is the info that Microsoft compltely rewrote the firewire drivers for Win7 and Win8, which might not work with some older legacy firewire hardware.
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Hello again friends!  After thorough investigating of my Dell Desktop PC (circa 2006), I've decided that Windows 7 will be more compatible with this machine than Win8.  This PC's BIOS does not support Secure Boot, which Win8 requires to install.

Now my next big question would be to ask:  What is the favorite E-Mail Client Software that you use? 
In XP I'm using Outlook Express to download the e-mail and prefer to continue that method rather than using Webmail.  Since Win7 (and 8) no longer include a mail client, which free client software do you like to use?

In searching around the internet, Thunderbird seems to get the most positive votes, and some for MS's own Windows Live Mail.  But really what do you folks use?  I appreciate any responses and discussion.  Thanks!
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Now my next big question would be to ask:  What is the favorite E-Mail Client Software that you use? 
In XP I'm using Outlook Express to download the e-mail and prefer to continue that method rather than using Webmail.  Since Win7 (and 8) no longer include a mail client, which free client software do you like to use?

In searching around the internet, Thunderbird seems to get the most positive votes, and some for MS's own Windows Live Mail.  But really what do you folks use?  I appreciate any responses and discussion.  Thanks!


I'm using Morzilla Thunderbird.
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I'm using Morzilla Thunderbird.


Same here.

Best E-Mail-client there is.
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This PC's BIOS does not support Secure Boot, which Win8 requires to install.

This is nonsense. Windows 8 does not require Secure Boot.
Secure Boot is only required and has to be turned on by OEMs to get a Windows-8-Logo.
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Hello again friends!  After thorough investigating of my Dell Desktop PC (circa 2006), I've decided that Windows 7 will be more compatible with this machine than Win8.  This PC's BIOS does not support Secure Boot, which Win8 requires to install.

If I remember correctly on x86 architecture Win8 doesn't require UEFI. It does support it, but it isn't a requirement.

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I'm using Morzilla Thunderbird.


Same here.

Best E-Mail-client there is.

Untill you try Outlook It isn't free though and it's much more than an E-mail client.
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I'm using Morzilla Thunderbird.


Same here.

Best E-Mail-client there is.

Untill you try Outlook It isn't free though and it's much more than an E-mail client.

Nope,

tried Outlook and dismissed it for Thunderbird.
And considering Thunderbird to be "only" an E-Mail client is like stating that Open Office is quite good for writing letters. Just take a look at the available PlugIns to see what it already can do.

The only advantage Outlook has is when it is run in a professionally maintained network with Exchange-Server. For private single-PC use it simply is a bloated piece of overly expensive software (Outlook 2013 Single-PC CoA costs € 99,-).
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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tried Outlook and dismissed it for Thunderbird.

Well, I tried quiet a few alternatives and always returned to Outlook. In my eyes no other email-client can compete against Outlook's contact management.

I use Thunderbird as a PortableApp on my USB-stick, but Thunderbird is the worst client in contact management. What I really like about Thunderbird is its extensibility, there are lots of good plug-ins like Lightning and Enigmail.
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I use Thunderbird as well at home and Outlook at work.

Never bothered much about contact management because I'm more of a mail receiver at home and not much of a sender and at work we have an Exchange Server and (Radio)Active Directory.
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I use Thunderbird privately and I used to use Outlook at work.

In a corporate environment Outlook is great for mixing its mail and agenda (meeting requests, alerts) features. But...

I find Thunderbird a lot better (read: easier) to manage multiple mail accounts (as I have several at my ISP, Gmail, Hotmail and Live). It needs plugin(s) for agenda features but I honestly do not need that privately. I prefer the good old paper version of an agenda  . Both Thunderbird ("address book") and Outlook can manage contacts where you can add a lot of detail. What suits your purpose more I cannot predict.

As Thunderbird is freeware I suggest you try it thoroughly. You can always fork out big money for Micro$oft Outlook if you don't like Thunderbird. Outlook is present in multiple biddings (Outlook standalone, part of MS Office, Office 365, outlook.com) so IF you go for Outlook, you take the variation best suited to you.

BTW, small typo in the OP naming Mozilla (the "r" shouldn't be there). Thunderbird can be found here. Right below the download button you can search for your preferred language version.

Back on topic  . Thunderbird works great on W8. Still haven't found a way to migrate without error my main machine to W8.1.
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Thunderbird seems to get the most positive votes, and some for MS's own Windows Live Mail.  But really what do you folks use?

I'm using Daily, really.

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The nice thing about Thunderbird (and Firefox) is that you can back up your profile directory and copy it to another computer (or a rebuilt one) and have everything back the way it was prior.
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For free software, it looks like Thunderbird is the word, and for costly software, Outlook gets the nod.  I've seen Outlook in the various Office Suites and as a stand-alone purchase, in either case it is still around US$100 by itself or when added to a suite.

Thunderbird fits my needs the closest since it handles multiple e-mail accounts, and sounds like it has a pretty good Address Book.  And it's FREE!  That's all I need, as I don't need a full-fledged contact manager or calendar for now.  Thanks again to all for your responses and discussion regarding an E-mail client!
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